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Like I said: gotta start somewhere.
My point is that the start is so small that it allows republicans to demonize and ultimately kill it since it doesn’t help the vast majority of people.
You’ve given up before you’ve even began (believe me, I know that feeling).
But don’t let your paralysis leak out to other people. If you see someone taking baby steps to make this world better, you be their cheerleader. You give them your energy so that they can take bigger strides.
And who knows, maybe in the process you’ll have taken your first baby steps too.
I haven’t given up. I’ve seen these baby steps from centrist liberals for the last four decades. They’re stringing us along like donkeys.
Centrist liberals will only do the bare minimum for the working class while fully enabling the capitalists.
Homes, food, insurance, cars, etc are much more expensive than ever and wages are not even close to catching up. Corporate profits are through the roof though.
Tell me how 8 years of Clinton plus 8 years of Obama plus 4 years of Biden improved the life of Americans. That’s 20 years of millions of Americans dying from being denied care and/or going bankrupt because they got sick.
All they did was stabilize the markets for capitalists.
Tell me how the republicans have done any better.
Look we can sit here and back and forth all day long. Yes, our system fucking sucks donkey balls. Will it get better? Who the fuck knows. But I guaran-fucking-tee you that shitting over things like affordable insulin is not the way to go. We gotta take our wins where we can. And when our centrist D’s don’t, we gotta get out there and hold their feet to the fire; whatever that means.
But giving up is not a fucking option, because that’s how we got Trump and friends in the first place. And look at where that’s got us.
We gotta a fucking gestapo in the US. We are at the cusp of a new nazi regime. And NOBODY that matters is freaking out about it.
What. The. Fuck.
So you know what: I’ll take a state 3,000 miles away from me FINALLY doing something right. Even if it’s not perfect. Because right now I need some goddamned good news. Even if it doesn’t affect me personally. Because what else do I have, if not that?
Just give me a goddamned gun otherwise so I can paint my walls in red.
Republicans are way way worse. You’re misunderstanding my complaint.
My complaint only points out that the baby step method that modern centrist liberals (Clinton, Obama, Newsom, Biden) push ends up being controlled opposition by the wealthy.
They all know what the real solutions are. They don’t hesitate to kick in socialism during every crisis that affects wealthy people. They go all the way with those. For anything that can help the public it is always some half-ass job that excludes a lot of people which will only upset a large segment of the population against it.
And speaking of the gestapo.
Do you know what’s going to happen if we ever have another election and a centrist liberal wins? The centrist liberals will say that it is time to move on from division and forgive and forget all offenses and government criminality. Just like Obama did with Bush and Biden did with Trump.
I don’t want to vote for controlled opposition centrist liberals. I want to vote for FDR Democrats.
Edit: as pointed out below, these numbers are for type 1 and 2, so the population is requiring insulin is much lower than this.
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/php/data-research/index.html
Sure, the majority of folks don't have diabetes, but come on, this affects a huge number of people, and I would bet that a vast, vast majority of people at least know someone with diabetes.
And yes, those are national whereas this is California---but it's also about changing hearts and minds. When someone from Texas, struggling to pay for their kid's insulin, learns about this, they might just question some things.
Not to mention those that know someone who has diabetes.
type 1 is the one that needs insulin the most but they dont make up a large part of compared to type 2.
Good point, edited to add comment.
type 2 needs insulin in some circumstance, if thier insulin resistance too high, or it precedes type 1.
11% is not insignificant. It’s just too small and it leaves most people out. I can already see the “most diabetic people make themselves diabetic” talking points.
The ACA was supposed to be transformative but it ended up being more of a patients’ bill of rights that anything to make care affordable.
Baby steps gave us Trump and their fascists regime. America needs someone with vision like FDR that isn’t afraid of upsetting the wealthy donors.
Sometimes that may be true but neurologically, empathy is often driven by experience and most people have a relative with diabetes and many people have a diabetic relative who struggles financially with it. This would be hard to demonize.