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[-] Kenny2999@lemmy.world 132 points 6 months ago
[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 38 points 6 months ago
[-] xkbx@startrek.website 24 points 6 months ago
[-] petersr@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Is this the hyperloop they talk about?

[-] wabasso@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago

I’m laughing at both the mental images of the horses being shunted through the hyper loop at high speed, or them being the motive force to pull passengers through.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

That's at least 18 horsepower!

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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 100 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

> setting has bikes and trains

> still using cars as main form of transportation

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 20 points 6 months ago

Cars are much more advanced tech than bikes. Hell we have partly self driving electric cars now. That's some sci-fi shit

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

huh, now i want to slap some sensors on my ebike so it can do ACC

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[-] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago

Hold on, let me just load up the family onto my bicycle and ride the 15 miles to the grocery store.

[-] fnrir 41 points 6 months ago

Can this argument just disappear from discourse? People don't always drive around with their partner, dog and 2.5 kids AND groceries AND spare tires AND grandparents.

The majority of people in car-centric areas use their car only to haul around themselves, which could be done with public transport or bikes.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That, and the nearest grocery store being 15 miles (25 km) away is highly unusual even by US standards. In the US alone, over 80% of people live in what the Census Bureau calls a city, defined as "encompass[ing] at least 2,000 housing units or hav[ing] a population of at least 5,000 people." The fact that someone chooses to live in bumfuck nowhere shouldn't mean that the other people who live in a town with population > 5 shouldn't get to have safe, affordable, well-kept walking/micromobility/public transit infrastructure.

People don't suddenly stop driving cars when not-cars becomes the predominant form of transportation. Like I said, "main form of transportation". That cars are by far the main form is the problem because, among other huge problems, it induces reliance on cars and creates expensive, unmaintainable sprawl that makes other forms of transit completely impractical. Hell, even bumfuck nowhere towns used to have passenger rail that came through them before the tracks were ripped out. I think people who worry that good not-car infrastructure will destroy their ability to drive are projecting, because in reality, it's always been car infrastructure that eats up everything else around it, not vice-versa.

"What do you mean 'boats shouldn't be the primary form of transportation'? Did you ever consider that I chose to live on an island off the coast of Michigan??"

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[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 6 months ago

I leave the 8-story building (with an elevator), walk 5-10 minutes (one road crossing with lights), buy groceries, in 30 minutes I'm back home.

Something is wrong with that murrka thing.

[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Most Americans are used to very spread out cities. It causes a lot of problems with groceries since you have to make far fewer grocery trips, which then means fresh foods are rare. Probably a huge contributor to America's obesity problem

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[-] kiagam@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Oh yes, the grocery store commute. You can clearly see in traffic that every car is full of groceries and people everyday at all times, and is rarely one person alone

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You know that your family can ride too? In cities which aren't car-centric hell-holes, it's normal for kids of very young ages (6-8 years old) to walk/bike everywhere on their own. It also tends to help a lot with their independence and development.

Also, if you build your cities correctly, your grocery store will be a <3 minute walk. Your spouse or kids can just walk there.

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[-] jaykrown@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago

It takes time to come to the realization that a lot of what we do is inefficient because that's just what people are used to doing. Some towns survive solely due to coal mining, and they see it as an existential threat if it were shut down. Nuclear power also takes very knowledgeable individuals, years of planning, and many resources to get started. Coal is cheap, dirty, and primitive.

[-] EldenLord@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Nuclear also isn‘t even a good energy source. Way too expensive and the waste is a problem for millenia. Renewables + hydrogen/battery/mechanical energy conservation is simply superior. Fusion would be cool too

[-] jaykrown@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

Nuclear is a great energy source. My state (Illinois) generates over half of all its energy from nuclear. France is a great example of a country that maximizes the potential of nuclear energy. The waste is not a problem if it's stored properly. The much bigger problem are carbon/methane emissions which are fucking our climate right now. Also, nuclear waste can be reprocessed to make it less volatile and radiotoxic, but that requires an advanced application of technology.

Batteries and solar absolutely yes, we need to be scaling up battery technology as fast as possible, particularly sodium-ion batteries for static energy storage from solar power. The biggest problems with wind/solar is the actual storage of the energy. No wind? No power. No sun? No power. That's why you need batteries, and battery technology has only gotten good enough in the past couple years.

Scaling up hydrogen is very difficult, it's extremely volatile, and can realistically only be used in large scale power plants because transporting hydrogen is extremely expensive. Fusion could be good, but it's still being worked on, and who knows how long it'll really take for us to have a practical implementation.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

France only pushed for nuclear, because they need an excuse for the costs of their nukes and nuclear submarines. The disadvantages of high cost and nuclear waste remain.

if it's stored properly

For millennia, which we can't do yet.

nuclear waste can be reprocessed to make it less volatile and radiotoxic

Which needs energy.

[-] AceOnTrack 26 points 6 months ago

France's 80 years of nuclear waste takes about the space of an Olympic swimming pool and half.

In a millena, it'll be 150 swimming pools, and that's assuming we haven't found a way to repair/reuse/recycle it in 1000 years. Or not decided to just yeet it on the nearest inhospitable planet via railcannon or something.

Nuclear waste is a non issue.

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[-] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 6 months ago

Modern reactors can run on the spent fuel of older generation reactors. The waste issue isn't as big of a deal as it was a few decades ago.

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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago
[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Use hydrogen for that (using coal creates 1.5 tons CO² per ton steel). Green steel needs no phosphor and sulfur too, making it stronger.

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[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 40 points 6 months ago

I feel like it would be much more effort to tame a flying creature or magic, with the latter often being displayed as a life-long commitment.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

At the very least, building a fence to keep in a Pegasus seems like MUCH more work

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[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yahtzee's book Will Save the Galaxy for Food actually covers this, in a sci-fi way. In the future, all transportation is done via Quantum Tunnelling, so guess what job suddenly became obsolete? Space pilots. Space pilots now only exist because people have nostalgia for the old days, reducing pilots to little more than tour guides and adventure holidays.

It's like in those MMOs where you can teleport basically anywhere, but you still have mounts and yes you can travel from one end of the map to the other on your horse, admiring the scenery, or you could just click the coordinates someone pasted into the chat to get to the world boss you're supposed to kill for the most optimum play... Lookin' at you, Guild Wars 2!

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Imagine a government so cartoonishly evil and/or stupid that it would develop nuclear technology, then use it to extract fossil fuels more profitably. No need, the USA tried.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ok, but in their defense the other idea was putting small nuclear reactors in everyone's car. Fallout didn't pluck that idea from the aether.

Nuclear Fracking has a ring to it though.

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[-] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 months ago

has anon considered, that maybe, horses are just extremely fucking cool, and that is why?

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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

You know I just realized I need to get a quick deployment and dedeployment windsurfing parachute to propel my bicycle when the wind is, well, normal here.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

quick deployment

Trivial

and dedeployment

Physically impossible

[-] Famko@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

So it averages out to being about average in difficulty then.

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[-] godrik@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I'm amazed how in fantasy settings with houndreds of humanized species, all being like horse, oxes, cows, pigs, parrots and what not... but acts like humans and have similar social status as humans.. still, meat is being pushed as the core diet in these worlds. It's so importantt to push this narrative that not even fantasy worlds are safe, even though it just gets weird (and prob really dark) with how that world otherwise works.

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