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The law, which Gov. Gavin Newsom signed on Wednesday, sets a 10-year deadline for the change to take place.

A new law will make California the first state to phase some ultraprocessed food out of school meals.

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed legislation Wednesday that prohibits public schools from serving children what it describes as “ultraprocessed foods of concern” in breakfasts or lunches. The policy sets a 10-year deadline for the change to take place.

It defines such foods as those that pose the greatest risks to consumers based on scientific evidence of adverse health outcomes, and it directs the state Public Health Department to determine which particular products meet the definition by June 2028.

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 weeks ago
[-] TotallynotJessica 10 points 4 weeks ago

I'd rather be in CA than a lot of states, but it's such a low bar. The politicians are more annoyingly corrupt; passing laws that sound progressive but really help rich cronies in the know. It keeps people pacified into thinking meaningful progress happens as we slide with the rest of the country into an ultra capitalist nightmare.

I'm beyond hoping people will ever see past the illusion. The learned helplessness is so strong that I'd expect California nationalism behind some feudal lord before recognizing that Cali sucks.

[-] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

California nationalism

Time for a New republic! We've already got the flag covered

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I’d rather be in CA

Some counties are progressive than others.

[-] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 weeks ago

Let's see how the magat morons try to spin this as being un-american and biased...

[-] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 weeks ago

Probably the same way the did when Michelle Obama tried the first time.

[-] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

"it's gunna kill jobs" "it'll trample my right to profit off slowly killing others"

[-] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

didnt michelle obama already do this? i thought it was all figured out by now.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

All she did was get rid of the high sugary stuff mostly.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Lies, she got rid of everything except the high sugary stuff aside from drinks in vending machines.

We lost basically everything with a Scoville unit over 10 in exchange for 35g sugar per serving chocolate milk and aspartame bullcrappary in the vending machines.

Plus the portion sizes dropped anywhere from 10-40% depending on the meal.

I even lost the fresh fruit bar for canned peaches.

It has been almost 2 decades and I still want revenge for my KIA flamin hot funyuns.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

At my school, they got rid of any kind of regular soda and regular Gatorade. Diet only and the snacks had to be the healthier kind like Baked Lays. We still had a fruit bar though so you could have something like peaches or a banana but they still had fucking pop tarts in the morning though lol.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Clearly big pop tart got to the food purchaser.

[-] giraffes@kbin.earth 6 points 4 weeks ago

So no more rectangular “pizza?” We used to have brownies that smelled like kelp too.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The rectangular pizza is not actually that processed. It comes from a US Department of Agriculture recipe and you can make it at home using common grocery store ingredients, although the USDA recipe is intended to make 100 servings.

The recipe does call for something called "pourable pizza dough" but there's a recipe for that too and it's basically just very thick pancake batter.

Edit: https://www.tastinghistory.com/recipes/schoollunchcheesepizza

[-] ImADifferentBird 2 points 4 weeks ago

Thanks for that recipe. I think I saw his episode on this when he made it, but never went looking for the recipe. I've been kinda wanting this pizza for a while, and I think I may actually try making it now.

I remember one of the schools I went to as a kid serving a version of this pizza with exactly two pepperoni on it, looking out of the middle of the slab like greasy little eyeballs.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not sure if you made the recipe already, but I recommend baking it for longer than it calls for, because the "pourable pizza dough" is really watery and will be undercooked otherwise. You should probably bake it for an additional 7–8 minutes more than it says to bake it for before adding toppings, and then keep it in the oven for another extra 2–3 minutes once toppings are added. I get that school pizza does not necessarily taste great anyway, but I think this change improves the flavour a lot.

[-] ImADifferentBird 1 points 5 days ago

Finally made it. The flavor is about what I remember, but I remember the crust being thicker than it came out. I wonder if it might benefit from a prove before the par-bake.

Also, I'm already thinking of ways to uplift this recipe, lol. Primary idea is using EVOO in the crust instead of vegetable oil.

[-] ImADifferentBird 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the tips. I haven't made it yet, mostly because I'm not sure what I'll do with a half sheet of school lunch pizza. I may save it for the next potluck I attend.

[-] Qkall@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago

i thought the issue was that upf don't have a standard definition... to be clear, for it, but from my last readings there's not real definition. (looks at hella loose organic definitions)

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

The article addresses this. The legislation addresses it in even more detail.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago

Does it?

It defines such foods as those that pose the greatest risks to consumers based on scientific evidence of adverse health outcomes, and it directs the state Public Health Department to determine which particular products meet the definition by June 2028.

Why not just say "unhealthy food" rather than pretending that "ultra processed food" means anything useful?

[-] candyman337@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The term ultra processed us pretty controversial unless they explicitly define it in this legislation. A PB & J is considered ultra processed even if you make the peanut butter, the jam, and the bread yourself because those ingredients have been processed heavily from their natural state.

Edit:

It defines such foods as those that pose the greatest risks to consumers based on scientific evidence of adverse health outcomes, and it directs the state Public Health Department to determine which particular products meet the definition by June 2028.

Ah ok that makes sense.

[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

California and Minnesota getting good stuff done while the rest of us are lagging further behind.

[-] ImADifferentBird 8 points 4 weeks ago

I mean, California is also going backwards on LGBTQ+ rights, so it's not all wine and roses there.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

The question remains: what counts as "ultra-processed"? America is a country where ketchup counts as vegetable for school meals. Can you imagine them serving normal, freshly cooked and healthy food instead?

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Ketchup is not considered a vegetable in America. That is a myth. Some random school official essentially made the equivalent of a shit post (said something stupid in a meeting with no serious intent) and local papers ran with it.

[-] raoulraoul@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Myth? No serious intent?

Reporting on the proposed directive, Newsweek magazine illustrated its story with a bottle of ketchup captioned "now a vegetable." The proposal was criticized by nutritionists and Democratic politicians who staged photo ops where they dined on nutrition-poor meals that conformed to the new lax standards. Compounding this outrage, the same day that the USDA announced the cost-cutting proposal for school lunches, the White House purchased $209,508 worth of new china and place settings embossed in gold with the presidential seal.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Um... yes??

Did you read the linked article? The regulation doesn't define ketchup as a vegetable. It explains how that was a thing people concocted to attack the proposed nutritional standards as being too lax.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

If it really is a myth, it is so fitting for the US that no one i know has ever questioned it.

[-] prole 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

America is a country where ketchup counts as vegetable for school meals.

Yeah and can you believe that they have litter boxes in classrooms now to appease the trans??

Smh my head.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Another victory for that entity called "Center for Science in the Public Interest" aka food police.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

10 year deadline

As an extremely experienced former K12 student^/s^ , I can tell you this promise is worth absolutely jack shit.

My burning fury for the Democratic party pretending to care about its constituency started with Michelle Obama nuking my school lunch.

Although to be fair, a rotting prison meal is still better than the Republican alternative of no food at all.

[-] prole 1 points 3 weeks ago

My burning fury for the Democratic party pretending to care about its constituency started with Michelle Obama nuking my school lunch.

Yeah, how dare they try to make kids eat healthier. Give me a fucking break.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

No you misunderstood.

They took the already baseline garbage school food program, threw it in the trash, then replaced it all with sugar injected manure, and then claimed they solved Obesity in schools.

The entire lunch trade economy tanked overnight, and something like 25-35% of students' parents at my school actually opted to stop buying school lunch because of how much the nutritional quality and portion size dropped.

I still remember the mini pancakes breakfast went from 10 pieces to 4, they got rid of the fresh fruit salad that came with it (different mix of fruits each week), and the syrup got replaced with what can only be described as leftover corn syrup from a soda machine. That thing would last you all but 30 minutes before you were hungry again and I would actually not be surprised if it stunted student mental development considering all the research behind the downsides of children not eating breakfast before school.

First time ever I was able to trade oranges, bananas, and mandarins for basically anything because the only fresh fruit that became available was dead sour apples that almost no one liked.

That was also incidentally around the same time they started taking away lunches from students who couldn't pay after crackdowns on cafeteria employees giving out free meals, though I'm not sure if that was a federal after effect or just my state.

Was so bad that kids wanted to do a revote on the mock 2008 election vote to see if Obama would lose after the fallout.

The only thing they fixed (partially) was the screwed up food pyramid with the stupid my plate marketing campaign which they wasted a ton of money printing out fliers and posters to hang on every wall, except no lunchroom was actually able to fulfill the ratio.

Not only did we all make fun of the fact that reaching the ratio in the poster was now impossible, it's still incorrect and might as well be a food pyramid 2.0.

I still have a photo of the chocolate milk with a 35g of sugar per serving lying around somewhere, will edit this if I find it.

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