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Tired of this abusive business model that big companies use on games.

  • I see a game on Steam with some decent price
  • I click on it
  • Dozens of DLCs, "Gold", "Deluxe" "Enhanced" version to enjoy the full game
  • Then you decide to pay for this shit anyway
  • But then the game is behind a launcher, that needs online connection and account even if it's full single-player
  • The game sometimes are just a port from an old console with almost full price, a game that you've paid for before
  • The game needs a hell amount of updates do become playable
  • And so much more...

Steam did an excellent job keeping me away from piracy, they provide too much good feature, discounts and etc... But not even Steam can make miracles against those abusive practices.

I must say RDR1 port was the last drop to me, It's game I played back on PS3 on my teenager time, I wanted to have some good memories and play it again, guess what, a full AAA price on a port, it's not even a remaster.

I've been avoiding EA and Ubisoft games for years, but still buying from big companies on Steam. Now I just give up, there's no more hope for AAA games, only mercenary companies are left: EA, Ubisoft, Rockstar, Activision, 2K, Bungie etc...

  • EA: Games with a hell amount of DLCs, the same FIFA every single year at full price, launcher required, they don't even try to hide anymore
  • Ubisoft: Same thing as EA, lots of DLCs, missed some game content from an old Prince of Persia because they shut an old launcher integrated to the game.
  • Rockstar: Launchers everywhere, charging a full price for the same game multiple times (GTA V).
  • Activision: You pay a full price and it still comes with a hell amount of micro-transactions, killed COD.
  • 2K: Out of nowhere decided to add a launcher to every old game they had (Bioshock and others I think) saying it was "QoL" update, now they decided to remove it, too late. The new Borderlands 4 terribly optimized, here we go with some dozens of updates again.
  • Bungie: The live service model, removed a lot of old paid contents from Destiny, the game will eventually die.

I'll still pay for small companies games, because I can, but those big ones, honestly, I don't give a shit anymore, they could be erased from existence together with all their games, I really don't care. Some smaller companies I've had a good experience and I think it's worth paying for: Ghost Ship Games, No More Robots, Hello Games, Techland, Frictional Games, Annapurna Interactive.

Some companies are in a limbo to me, I'm not entirely sure about it: Capcom, Bethesda, Warner, Square Enix.

So, that's it, I just downloaded Spider Man Remastered and RDR from FitGirl, it worked seamless, I didn't have a single issue. I could even add as non-Steam game and use Steam input (thanks Steam), I'll probably use some script to move to savegames data to the cloud, and let the packed games on an external HDD (finally, I'll own my games).

Another thing that's hard to ditch to me is achievement tracker, I know we have AchievementWatcher but it doesn't work too well on pirated games. It's something I'll need to get used, not a big deal tbh.

I'll probably use the money I'd spend on AAA games to explore some indie games. And AAA games are now always pirate.

Obs.: The companies I've mentioned here are from my own experience, this isn't meant to be an Wikipedia of good/bad companies, I know there are more decent and bad companies out there.

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[-] thelittleblackbird@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

I am not going to be the one to try to stop you but you need to keep in mind that games/sw piracy comes with great risks.

You need to execute anti cheat / drm / copyrighted stuff and this is always a big door open to malware.

Be cautious out there, it is not a pleasant walk

[-] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago

Thats why you usually use a VM / dedicated computer to download / check pirated software. Its annoying... But less annoying than the shit that ubisoft / EA does...

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Using a VM to check pirated software, but then running it on your main pc if you don't notice any malware (I think that's what you are saying?) is not safe.

Running untrusted software only on a vm or machine that you don't care about with zero personal info is safest.

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[-] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I've a dual boot with Linux + Windows, my games are isolated on Windows where I'm not logged in anything important. I can just encrypt my Linux partition for a possible vulnerability. But I really think that it's hard to happen, at least it never happened to me, I've pirated before a few times.

Also it's allowed to pirate on my country, it's just not allowed to redistribute it, so I don't need a VPN.

Just download from trusted sources and it's fine. At this point I'd rather to trust the community providing pirated games than big companies harvesting my data.

[-] prole 15 points 1 day ago

Why not just use Linux to game?

[-] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I didn't have a good experience with Linux, I tried twice, I've a laptop wit hybrid GPU AMD + NVIDIA, and NVIDIA is painful on Linux. I loose a lot of performance playing on Linux, tried Fedora last time, OpenSUSE before that.

I might try again eventually.

[-] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago
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[-] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Steam is fine, for the most part, but steam is also DRM. Personally I opt to buy games on GoG, because whatever releases there, you can download the installer and play offline, anywhere, anytime, and due to the platform requirements it strips a lot of the extra nonsense of requiring accounts and launchers and such.

The one downside is some publishers/developers don’t have the latest version on there or release on there later as definitive builds, but it’s better than having to deal with all that nonsense to begin with.

[-] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Also, I'm more confident that old games will work out of the box from gog than Steam. Unfortunately, as a Linux user, out of the box proton supports on Steam is just too convenient. I can't think of many gog games that natively run on Linux.

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[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

Steam is also American, so I'm using GoG more now.

[-] observes_depths@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't add pirated games to steam. I think I heard they can ban your account for that. But yeah agree, don't support bs practices.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

I think I heard they can ban your account for that.

No, they don't. That's just anti-piracy propaganda at work

[-] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 21 hours ago

How would you add pirated games? Just adding their shortcuts to the library? No, lol.

Buying games from places like CDKeys (now known as Loaded, dumb name)? Probably not either.

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Yea, the spacewar game charts would like to disagree with you. It's a game that pirates specifically use to enable Steam features on pirated games.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago

The hell does "piracy against big companies" even mean?

Man, pirate what you can't afford if you must, just... you know, be honest about it. I'm always annoyed by people doing the thing they wanted to do anyway and presenting it as activism. That's not how that works.

For the record, while I think there's plenty to be critical about in modern gaming, "DLC", "game has a launcher" and "game is ported from other platforms" are not that. "A game I played on the PS3 was too expensive when I wanted to rebuy it" is somebody giving you bad value up front, not some ideological stance you're taking.

For the record, I also didn't buy it because I also didn't think their launch price was right. In fairness, it has since been on sale for 30 bucks multiple times, which is a lot more reasonable.

And again, I'm not saying don't pirate it. Do what you want. Just don't be weird about it.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

The hell does "piracy against big companies" even mean?

Paying for indies while pirating AAA isn't that hard of a concept to wrap your head around. Sounds more like a "you" problem

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[-] Gnugit@aussie.zone 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I haven't bought a full price AAA game in at least 20 years for this reason.

The last few years though things are getting really bad and I have begun investing heavily into retro game disks for my PC as well as on my OG Wii and PS1, 2 and 3 games for my PS3 phat.

I'm getting some great games for l from $1 - $12 that i can play anytime, no connection required.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 21 hours ago

My old consoles are showing their age, and I'm pretty sure my ps2 bit the dust. I'm trying to get my foot in the door on emulating, but linux has been more difficult to navigate than windows.

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[-] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Me neither, I'm just saying, the prices are too high, the games I bought on Steam I always waited at least 50% discount.

But now it's everything $0,00.

[-] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Last game I ever bought was minecraft, back in 2012(?) for $15. Played it non-stop for a decade before the community imploded. Got my money's worth. Haven't bought a game since. No point unless they have a similarly active multiplayer community. It's a pirate's life for me.

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

So you think the correct price to hours of enjoyment ratio is $15 per decade of playtime?

[-] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Somewhere in that neighbourhood, yes. That's how much I'm willing to pay. My old carrom board lasted me two decades, and it was $30 (with discs). That's the yardstick I measure games by.

[-] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

It is to be noted that that $30 does not account for the amount of powder used to lubricate the board or the replacement discs. Just as I did not include the cost of upgrading my PC to run minecraft 1.18, the dogshit optimization update.

[-] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

It is also to be noted that I bought minecraft only after I was sure that I would enjoy it. That's why I played the cracked version for 3 years before my purchase.

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[-] mkmusic@torishiro.com 8 points 1 day ago

@CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world and plus, most of the time, when you're buying indie games from steam, they're drm-free, so you can play them offline, run them without steam running in the background.

honestly, I have no more hope in the AAA games, since it will be the same game over and over again with different skins or slight UI tweaks. there's nothing much Steam can do at this point, because it's the business model of these companies in the end. It's time to give back all the money wasted on these AAA games to indie titles now, it's well deserved...​:bilibili_dianzan:​

[-] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Too many investors coming off cheap, obvious ripoff games for a mobile telephone.

The trump family of asshole con-men just bought EA. Everything from now until they're sold off for scrap is not only completely worthless, is actively hostile to users.

It's a sign that the cons and grifting has 100% fully come to Computer games. Many have exploited them before, but not like this.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bit busy so can’t make a long comment. Just wanted to say, welcome to the ‘dark’ side. I highly recommend to check the instance I’m on for everything you need (Megathread). It tells you where to look, which safety measures to take etc.

I wanted to purchase Metaphor Refantzio because the game seems good and then figured out they blatantly said “you don’t own Metaphor even if you purchase it”. Thus decided to pirate it (it isn’t cracked but it is playable).

[-] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Man ea and Ubisoft games suck so bad I don't even bother pirating them. I'm not even being facetious, the last ea game I played was the dead space remake which was passable but also totally skippable, and I borrowed a friends ea account to do that, getting bored half way through and stopping. Had he not offered I'd not have played it at all. I think the last ea game I paid and played through was mass effect 2.

Same thing with Ubisoft. I briefly had gamepass and played AC Odyssey for three hours before losing interest, same with their terrible Greek botw wannabe.

Neither company has released anything I've even been interested in since that, years and years ago.

That said I still buy rockstar games, the amount of money, effort, and attention to detail that went into Red Dead 2 is simply breath taking, but by the same token i bought it for twenty bucks after pirating it to make sure i liked it and it ran well.

Other than that I'm on the same page as you. Also I'm not criticizing you, just pointing out a slight difference in opinion. I pirate two dozen games a month

[-] Skipcast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

RDR is €50 full price and includes all dlcs, €30 atm in autumn sale. AAA games are priced between 60-90 these days. What do you mean it's full AAA priced

[-] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It was launched with full price, it's not even remastered, just a port. I've paid for this already on PS3.

[-] Skipcast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It was 50 on release too. I agree it's overpriced but I'm just saying calling it full AAA price is not accurate

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

In my head anything above ~40 eur is basically AAA pricing. Personally, I'm not going to acclimate to their new prices being double that. If it's above 40 it basically doesn't exist to me.

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