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[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 3 days ago

33% of people approve

For real? We're so fucked.

[-] MarkAB@mastodon.world 39 points 3 days ago

@Assassassin @vegeta And another 30% can’t be bothered to get off their ignorant dead asses to even VOTE. So you are correct, we are fucked, and getting more fucked every single day.

[-] hildegarde 28 points 3 days ago

voter suppression. non proportional representation.

the pitifully low voter turnout is a systemic issue.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Which just means we’re more fucked because to fix the system we need people to vote more.

We’re in a crashing plane and the cockpit is locked.

[-] hildegarde 7 points 3 days ago

Elections are run locally. You can get involved.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

If I thought it would have any effect at all I would certainly do that.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

New York fielded AOC and now Mamdani. Georgia flipped blue back in 2020.

Local elections matter. Arguably moreso than federal (barring deranged fascist dictators taking over...). That is how republicans gain the power to destroy school boards and take over states so that they can gerrymander it and make it much harder to ever be voted out.

So... maybe you should think harder before choosing to do nothing?

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

You say that like I haven’t been fruitlessly doing that for a quarter century.

Maybe think harder before assuming I don’t know how fucked we actually are.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

Ah, apologies. I did not realize you were part of secret seal team seven.

But... honestly? Try harder. It fucking sucks and it is massively demoralizing. But if there is any hope in the system then it involves fixing things locally and propagating that upwards. It is literally what republicans did and we can see the counter efforts bearing fruit around the country.

And if there is no longer any way to run counter efforts (increasingly likely come 2028...) then we are in a very different stage of things and probably shouldn't be discussing that on public facing forums.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

See, I’ve given up hope in the system. Republicans managed to do it because the institutions still sort of worked, and they destroyed them during their takeover so it can’t happen again.

We are most definitely in that new stage.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

And that's great.

But you'll understand if stuff like what you said makes people assume you are a lazy doomer who doesn't understand how the government works rather than someone actively discouraging others from even trying.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Oh yeah, I get a ton of hate for it.

Doesn’t bother me. It’s not like the internet is real.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Turnout in 2024 was above the baseline. It was just off the '20 record high, thanks to sharp constrictions in rules for registration and mail-in ballots.

Incidentally, the move to grant universal national mail-in voting in 2020 saw national turnout skyrocket to levels historically enjoyed by states like Wisconsin and Oregon, which already had universal state-level mail-in voting.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

And another 30% can’t be bothered to get off their ignorant dead asses to even VOTE.

Reasonably sure HHS Secretary isn't an elected position.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

People appointed by an elected official are the consequences of the election that installed that official. Thus, the 30% that did not vote were in effect, indirectly responsibe for the HHS secretary appointment.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thus, the 30% that did not vote were in effect, indirectly responsibe

You're assuming this 30% would default to the second place candidate. If they split their vote, it's a wash. If they all vote third party, its a wash. Hell, if they reinforce the EC margins in big blue states, its a wash.

Our winner take all system deliberately marginalizes fringe positions. The only way this 30% matters is if they voted for Harris in exclusively Red States in sufficient quantities to flip those states.

Beto played this game in Texas and lost, repeatedly. It turns out that Republicans can also activate idle voters, and at a pace that's faster than their liberal peers.

Meanwhile, Harris underperformed other Democrats in purple/blue states, suggesting she just ran a bad campaign

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

I'd be curious to know how many of those 33% are actually aware of each thing RFK Jr has done, how many approve each of those things, and how many are just stating their answers here as a way of expressing their support for Trump.

The propaganda bubble most of these people live in insulates them from reality, but at the same time, I'm pretty sure you could invent a fictional Trump appointee and a majority of Republicans would claim they approve of the job they are doing. And you could probably get them to say they support all kinds of crazy shit they don't actually agree with as long as they view the question as a partisan referendum.

I have a coworker who is anti-vax and also anti-immigrant. This would be utterly unremarkable except that the reason she is anti-immigrant is that she thinks they're all unvaccinated and bringing diseases into this country.

[-] Railing5132@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Doublethink in the purest form

[-] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

That is hilariously, maddenly accurate. You win the day!

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago

I would add on: How many people just know rfk as "that health guru my favorite celebrity talked about".

Never forget that there was a fairly large trend on google of "Did Biden drop out" last year on fucking election day.

People are deeply ignorant. Intentionally so. Just think about all the times over the years you have seen "I am going to stop watching the news for my mental health" and all that.

[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago

That tracks. About a third of people are hopeless morons, just in general. Look up any statistic about how many people believe something stupid, it's always about a third.

[-] Dragomus@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

Does not matter, he will not go away or be removed by Trump.

Popularity polls have no meaning if they are ignored or shrugged off, and the regime in charge is not interested in functioning or suitability for a position anyway.

RFK will only be told to pack his bags if he does something outright disastrous like inject members of trump's family with chlorine.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Now now he is a Kennedy in government, it's entirely possible someone will do it for the meme.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

I mean there are so many options to write ironic things on bullet casings for a man like that. Second brain worm, the final jab, the cure, the list just goes on....

[-] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It is both saddening but also wholly unsurprising that the "Tylenol causes autism" is probably a big reason for this. Not just because it's baseless conspiracy slop; No, that would make too much sense. A big part of the divide is because the conspiracy slop enjoyers are upset that it isn't THEIR conspiracy slop that he's peddling. They're mad that he isn't saying this about vaccines first.

[-] switcheroo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

And that matters how? He is a tick. They all are. They've burrowed into the skin at this point.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Did they ever even fucking start with this dumbfuck?

Taco only "won" by the slimmest of numbers. Most people hate Taco, too, but a lot of apathy and stupidity had people sitting out and therefore, Taco "won". Taco gets in there and puts fElon in there and Bobby Brainworm in there as a giant FUCK YOU to "the left", but most people don't like either of these two douchebags.

People especially hate Bobby Brainworm since what animates Bobby Brainworm is to take vaccines away from Americans so that people, including children, can die of preventable diseases. And he sat there and FUCKING LIED about it during his hearings. And Republicans, the little quislings that they are, didn't care at all that he is a lying liar.

Bobby Brainworm can go fuck himself with his crazy cult of "wellness".

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

"Chapaquiddich: Pinky and the Brainworm" written, directed and produced by JKRowlings

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