"Join our Discord"
Ugh. Why. I don't want to hang out in your chatroom.
Discord has such a ridiculous, unfriendly layout, too; almost any other platform has a better UI...
I think this is double sided
Yes it is unfriendly but do you remember how it was pre discord? Communities built around vent and teamspeak?
Discord is a step up from that but it needs to remain a community hub, not a full repository of information. "Visit our website" on the main page is necessary most of the time.
Also discord has forum posts. These are awful and you can only have like 200 active posts or some rudimentary and small count which means you cant really use it as a forum (let alone the unintuitive layout of them)
Communities before discord were forums. No fucking community was built around teamspeak or vent. They had them, but they were built around forums or the in game systems of various MMOs.
MMOs use to be actual glorified IRC and chat rooms that just happened to have a game attached. That was the entire point.
Forums were the bread and butter, that's were you got the voice coms info.
At best you have tiny friend groups that only hung out in a voice coms. But the actual community was NOT ts3 or vent
I've never used Vent nor Teamspeak, either. I just don't get why Reddit's/Lemmy's excellent threading can't be followed more closely. I understand that IMs fire rapidly and can bury threads up above, but the current format is just too unwieldy for mass discussion.
Actually, it's the lack of E2E that I dislike the most. There doesn't seem to be any easy way to solve real-time child comments, but at least Matrix is E2E. Revolt, while not E2E (and lacking video-streaming), can at least be self-hosted as well. Where Discord excels insanely is in its live screen-sharing; nothing comes close except maybe Google Meet and Zoom.
I don't use it for gaming, but for backing up a social club that does IRL events, and I'll say Discord is the worst thing ever until you consider the alternatives.
WhatsApp was ok but the featureset just wasn't good enough. I sure do hope Discord gets their shit together but they don't seem motivated to improve it.
I've recently started using Discord more to play with friends and my god, the UI is so awful.
Even as someone that likes and uses Discord, I don't want to join their Discord. It's so much harder to find answers than just using a search engine, and if it's something I'm using for work, then I have to create a new account and everything
God I fucking hate discord as a centralized place for anything open source. Seriously anything else. It's just such a bad place to dissiminate information.
All knowledge that only exists on discord will be lost
Yup, having to join each server to access information means we (I presume) won't be able to archive it via ArchiveTeam Warrior.
Within minutes.
Is there no open alternative to it? Like old school forums but with a more modern ui and voice chats, and ideally indexed from the wider web. It could be an interesting addition to the fedi verse
NodeBB is a modern forum that i believe is activitypub enabled unless i'm thinking of something else
I joined a discord of a very popular app recently. I do not know why devs like this in any way. If I was them I'd burn it down after the first day. The only thing in the discord is people posting the same few problems over and over and over. It so bad they not only have one bot but 3 that respond with it looks. Like your questing has been asked before please look here... With likes to people asking the same question but with no answer because its some AI trying to help. Even when you try to help someone and reply back with a correct answer you get spammed by these 3 bots. I had to block the 3 bots before I could do anything pertaining to conversation with someone. Why do we live like this...
A well documented FAQ on a forum would be so much more helpful than this discord garbage. I am someone who does read the fucking manual. But when your manual is a link to discord you deserve to be spamed with the same question 10000'ed times.
But that's not cool like AI running in a container in a flatpack in a VM on the cloud in a Docker giving you useless information!
All I read was AI so I know it's good
me: you got instructions on how to do this?
google: best i can do is a 20 minute youtube video with no timestamps or a reddit post to a post answered with a deleted post take your pick
yeah we need more wikihow articles on everything
My favorite is when you're interested in downloading a mod or fan game and the only place it exists is as a link to a google drive on discord.
Holy shit, learn how to use technology please.
I think it’s because if it’s on a site, it’s going to get taken down quick, especially if it’s even adjacent to Nintendo. Hosting rom hacks, fan games, etc on their own sites is stupid AF. It’s how all the other idiots keep getting in trouble.
Goes double for roms in general. Large torrents are 1000x better than rom sites.
Do you have a website?
We have a Facebook.
Unless it is something that I really need, and I can't find an alternative for, the phrase "join our discord for support and updates" is a sure sign that I will not, in fact, be using that product.
I agree that Discord sucks for support, but in defense of companies and projects that use it (like my own), it’s free and it works.
It would be awesome to have some alternative, built on open source software, provided freely to all projects and companies, that a majority of users are willing to join, but that just doesn’t exist. Not at the scale that it’s going to see widespread adoption any time soon.
I will have a party the day it happens though, because even though I use Discord to provide support for two of my projects, I hate it. I’m just not willing to throw around more hosting resources and dedicate more time to run a support forum myself that 90% of my users wouldn’t be willing to sign up for anyway.
Maybe I'm a minority and if it works for you all the power to you. Though I would almost prefer a forum site. Bring back the old days of some forum hosted on a random website. Not some walled garden like Facebook or reddit or discord. I think bb board or something like that is still around or somewhere thing like it. Drop in forum templet for a web site. I don't think it would really be that much bandwidth to host something like that.
Anyway I miss the days of signing up for random forums on the internet.
Edit: https://www.phpbb.com/
aren't the usual project hosting/issue/bug trackers thingies like github and forgejo free?
Yeah, and I use those too, but they’re not good for ad-hoc discussions.
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