"I'd rather my kids be autistic than dead"
I think this is a completely valid train of thought.
Misguided for sure, but valid.
What all these people would say if they both believed their bullshit and loved their kids.
I'm curious how many people are vaccinating their children, but don't want to have the rest of their friends and family know.
Not enough.
Not exactly misguided. Also that is a quote from some old comedian. (Steven Fry?)
It also makes discussions with people believing it easier. You can avoid discussing what they believe as facts and focus on the decision they make.
Reminds me of a bit some streamer did about a trans inclusionary radical misogynist. "I get it, if I was born a woman I'd want to be a man too! And any weak man that can't hack it should get to be a woman! Trans rights!"
It makes me laugh everytime I see people like that. It's just so funny to me that there are people that can get over a pretty recent prejudice, but not the one that's thousands of years old, that is significantly less socially acceptable than the other. Actually, I think that they should have cage matches with terfs.
Tbh, it's not that surprising to me.
Trans prejudices are, as you said, rather new and to most people rather impactless. Most people don't have close daily contact with trans people, just because there aren't that many, so it's not that difficult to say "You know, I don't really care".
Man/woman stereotypes on the other hand are super deeply ingrained and even if you are conciously watching out for them and trying to avoid them you will inevitably fall prey to some of these. They are so ingrained that they are just subconcious.
For example, one of my kids had a birthday party. We were at some indoor playground and quite quickly the girls and boys of that group separated and each of the two groups did their own thing.
I checked in with the girls every 10 minutes or so, asking them if they are doing alright. After the third or fourth time I realized that I only did that with the girls, because apparently I subcontiously trusted the boys to manage on their own, but not the girls or something. So I stopped doing that.
Was the person shit posting to highlight the absurdity of bigotry by changing the perspective or where they genuine?
Shit posting. It was a joke.
Trans-Inclusive Radical Mysognist
That used to be my discord bio but I got tired of all the interrogations from mods making sure I wasn't actually evil :(
Isn't that trans maxing? Forgive me I'm just trying to learn.
I seriously have zero clue what "trans maxing" is supposed to be.
Imagine an incel has dysphoria and no queer theory, common sense, or touch with reality. Transmaxxing is the byproduct of that.
Straight up shit like taking hormones and dating men in order to get laid because they can't get women
So literally the kind of stuff a lot of trans people do before they realise they are trans. Yeah of course it is very cis to dress up as a girl, have a female name in your had "just in case" and wishing to be born a girl (dont worry someone who has this experiences could never possibly become trans). That's what peak denial looks like.
Yeah but through the incel looksmaxxing lens. And also often going way further without accepting thst they're trans than most denial stuff does.
Now I'm thinking of the Jello apocalypse bit where they were dubbing Sky's of Arcadia, "The existence of trans men prove we don't need women".
I think that's the stream I was thinking of, actually. Time for a rewatch!
This was from the Penn and Teller TV show called Bullshit! They said, " Assume the research paper is correct. Going by their statistics, you are far more likely to die than get autism."
And the paper turned out to be fraud.
Isn't that how it's supposed to work? Parents preferring live children to dead ones in world that constantly throws weird bullshit their way?
Okay but what if my kid turns out gay or trans or a different kind of christian than me? It's better that they die than any of that, right?
Sadly yes. If they really believe their book, they prefer them dying without sin than living and being damned to hell. Which nicely encompasses in a single sentence most off what is wrong with religions, Christianity in particular.
Except that isn't in the Bible. The whole "Age of Accountability" thing is a very new idea, coming up only within the last 200-ish years or so. Like a lot of other stuff that fundamentalists bang on about, whether you believe that Christianity on the whole is made up or not, that part definitely is.
Some (but not very much) of the bullshit they ramble on about is in there, but it's not in the important part.
All of the fire and brimstone, Sodom & Gomorrah, "I am a vengeful god" shit is in the Old Testament. Sure, the Old Testament is important (it's like half of the book, after all), but it's important as backstory. It's literally just the Torah in a different order, included because Christianity started as a breakaway sect of Judaism.
The part that actually pertains directly to Christianity starts with a list of "begats," some very confused shepherds, and a barn baby getting presents. The New Testament is mostly about helping others and being tolerant; and the star of the show, Jesus, literally goes around telling people that they can get into heaven just by being nice and helping the needy. He gets angry exactly once, and goes on a table-flipping rampage because someone else was taking advantage of poor pilgrims. It's the kind of thing that a lot of the Christian Right would call "hippie bullshit," but it's also the entire point of their religion.
Exactly. Amen, go in peace, all that.
Just because it "isn't in the bible" doesnt mean it isnt part of Christianity.
The important part is that he understands that vaccines work. The antivax morons do not.
There's different degrees of being wrong, and this guy is only half wrong, leading to a better outcome. We should encourage that.
Half wrong but got the entirely good outcome. Or almost.
Or you could be my parents, don't vax and still get at least two autistic children anyway.
Yeah, but think about how much autisticer they could have been!
Important things to ponder
I think I’d have more respect for them, not less. They seriously considered it was easier to deal with the autism than endangering their children and others with the disease. The positive side is that it’s very unlikely there will be any disease or autism.
I am not sure the other side shuns vaccination because they are afraid of autism. I am sure there are many among them who would not terminate a pregnancy even if they found out in time that their child would have down's syndrome (I don't condemn or condone this, just giving an example). They only don't vaccinate because "the libs tell them to", so more like a cult fanaticism behaviour. I think it is that simple and stupid not even something pragmatic.
You could very well be right. It definitely tracks with what I’ve personally seen. There really seems to be a lot of I’ll do what they tell me so I don’t have to think or put in any effort.
What a good parent.
In contast: My mother would rather have me being dead that help me get through depression. Fuck "Filial Piety", bunch of bullshit. I made typo on a tax form that they themselves don't even know how to file and all the sudden its my fault? Bruh. "Medication is bad", meanwhile I'm struggling with serotonin withdrawl, and yet they have the audacity to say I'm useless for an illness they inflicted on me.
Ignore them and take the pills. If you are a child, report them to the authorities instead.
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