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[-] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 103 points 1 week ago

It is scary that the last line of defense against authoritarianism is the judicial system.

Yep, because the Tribunal of Six is the final (legal) court of appeal in the country.

The checks are fraudulent and the balances have been tampered with.

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

No the last line is the citizens but they seem content to sit back and watch their democracy collapse.

[-] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People aren't just sitting back though. The world literally just watched someone intentionally kill Charlie Kirk in a public setting, in front of thousands of people.

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

He wasn't defending democracy. He shot him because he wasn't fascist enough

[-] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's speculation at best. The kid they apprehended hasn't confessed to anything.

Dont listen to the pundits. For anything. As someone recently suggested, pundits are just the court jesters keeping us divided.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

I’ll take the win, regardless

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That was MAGA on MAGA gang violence

[-] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Again - speculation. Kid is only a suspect at the moment, hasn't confessed to anything, yet the ~~court jesters~~ pundits are going absolutely hogwild over "what ifs" and assumptions based on absolutely nothing.

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

If it comes to the citizens, we're all gonna have a bad time.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

There are some people doing some stuff. But definitely not at the scale nor intensity required.

[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Easy to say behind a keyboard. If you live in the US and know your communities, it's not as easy as you all make it seem.

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Oh, it's hard? Sorry, I didn't realize defending your democracy would be inconvenient for you. Oh well, nothing you can do then.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

"There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order"

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

There's another line after that, but people don't like talking about it.

[-] evenglow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

More scary that it's down to lawyers. Not the judges.

[-] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

I've read good things about the lawyers at Democracy Forward https://democracyforward.org/

[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

I get what you are saying and totally empathize with the sentiment given a modern context, but that is the purpose of judiciaries and why the US federal goverment structure was designed the way it was.

What's surprising is not that it's the last line of defense, it's that we've been pushed to the fucking brink.

[-] evenglow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

USA fell off the brink last November. Everything going on now is the falling down bit while people hope someone else is stacking pillows at the bottom. But pillows got real expensive lately and a new Trump headline just dropped.

[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It's always been the judicial system. In Nazi Germany, the courts were incredibly close to blocking the concentration camps. If they had, we'd have had a very different history

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Good thing conservatives haven't packed the courts. Oh wait.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Total concentration camp casualties were about 13 million. (about half of that jews, but we almost don't talk about the rest, Israel makes sure the focus is on jews). Mind bogglingingly horrible.

But total WWII casualties were something like 80 million.

Would history be different? Sure. Amongst other things, Zionists wouldn't be able to weaponize guilt.

[-] USSEthernet@startrek.website 56 points 1 week ago
[-] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago
[-] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

And why they didn’t just use an AI to summarize all the key points in just as much time as it took to write is beyond me lol.

[-] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

"Since you didn't bother to write it, I didn't bother to read it."

[-] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

A judge can’t really do that. At a minimum he needs human staff to do that.

[-] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Oof yeah I didn’t really think of that, I guess I was thinking this was the oppositions lawyer we were speaking about.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago

"As every lawyer knows (or is presumed to know), a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective -- not a protected platform to rage against an adversary."

You have to be a really shit lawyer to work for Trump.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

It would be great if the lawyers actually faced consequences for such blatant abuses of their profession. Lawyers are supposed to have standards they adhere to which are obviously not being followed. These lawyers know what they are doing is wrong and are doing it intentionally, their Bar association really should not tolerate this behavior.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

They can, and many of Trump's lawyers have. It's a process though.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They should be figuring out ways to expedite that process because any semblance of respect for our legal system is vaporizing by the hour.

Sure the average person always had mistrust of it, but when you have the important people in the industry say it, you know it's fucked because part of their job is to try to retain respect for the institution.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

They should be figuring out ways to expedite that process because any semblance of respect for our legal system is vaporizing by the hour.

That cuts both ways - you want a process that is diligent and non-reactionary. Trump will always find more stupid lawyers willing to fall on their sword for him anyway.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah but the bar will drop low. He will have lawyers so stupid they are completely ineffectual.

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I loved that quote! 😄

And this was a court they cherrypicked for presumed favorability.

I love that we still get some moments like this.

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The judge gave them a page limit, too.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

It's almost like it was frivolous.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

He has admitted doing it because it drains their resources.

We need slap laws everywhere.

[-] FEIN@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Some people reading your comment might take it as an exaggeration, but it was LITERALLY as frivolous as it could be. The judge who dismissed it said it contained repetitive praise for the president without establishing properly their reasons for legal action.

[-] Pavidus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Headline tomorrow: "Trump appeals decision against New York Times, suit remains."

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago
[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Stormy Daniels: "I've seen faster."

[-] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago

Always good to see the Orange Nazi lose.

[-] aeternum 5 points 1 week ago

nazi rapist. Don't forget the rape. He's trying to make it go away, so don't forget it!

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

The paint of the suit was the damage caused by it. Not winning.

[-] apenstaartje@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 week ago

Hey if we never do anything about it they know they can keep doing it.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

Well the judge threw it out at lightspeed, that's something

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
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