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[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 109 points 2 weeks ago

To be clear, the system picked out faces in the crowd, in the "yes, this is a face" sense. They were labeled in what appears to be random terms like positive, kind, nostalgic, bee keeper, gif animator, extreme ironer. No personal identification.

[-] trailee@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

Oh that’s very interesting. I didn’t get that nuance from the article. Do you have a link to more info?

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it's the link to the Youtube clip in the embed in the article.

[-] spizzat2@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago

Specifically, this link, which looked like a twitter link to me.

[-] scarilog@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah this article is hot garbage. What "biometric data" are they talking about??? Just images of people's faces? My understanding is that it's super commonplace in public locations, are people really that surprised?

[-] janonymous@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

That is technically biometric data

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 79 points 2 weeks ago

The only people offended by this are the ones who dont yet understand that this is happening constantly all over the place without your consent already.

[-] bigfondue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Something happening all the time doesn't mean that it's good and you should just accept it.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No of course not. But in order to be able to not accept it, you have to know about it in the first place. Thats what this is perfect for. No harm done, lots of eyes opened.

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[-] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Which would be most people?

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[-] MrGemeco@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

It’s a great way to showcase that these things are in use and will be in use in places with bad privacy laws (and by those that ignore such laws). Most people don’t want to think that this happens on a daily basis, it’s logical for them when you tell them, but they’re busy with their lives and they don’t actually see it being done with their own eyes.

Now tell them how this data is connected to your ticket and your face/video being analyzed after the fact, which is then sold off to become what is basically an quantification of you as a person to judge you and determine what your addictions, views and flaws are, in order to expoit it to make you as miserable as possible. And people won’t really believe it since it’s uncomfortable to believe in. Showing someone’s face makes it more believable and difficult to ignore.

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[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 75 points 2 weeks ago

Social media erupted with bewildered reactions from attendees. Some praised the band for forcing a conversation about surveillance that most people avoid, while others expressed discomfort with the unexpected data capture.

Unlike typical concert technology that enhances your experience, this facial recognition system explicitly confronted attendees with the reality of data capture. The band made visible what usually happens invisibly—your face being recorded, analyzed, and potentially stored by systems you never explicitly agreed to interact with.

The audience split predictably along ideological lines. Privacy advocates called it a boundary violation disguised as art. Others viewed it as necessary shock therapy for our sleepwalking acceptance of facial recognition in everyday spaces. Both reactions prove the intervention achieved its disruptive goal.

Your relationship with facial recognition technology just got more complicated. Every venue, every event, every public space potentially captures your likeness. Massive Attack simply made the invisible visible—and deeply uncomfortable. The question now isn’t whether this was art or privacy violation, but whether you’re ready to confront how normalized surveillance has become in your daily life.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is why I no longer go out in public.

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[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 64 points 2 weeks ago

Good. A little bit of shock treatment is just what the doctor ordered.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago

Now consider this to coldplay concert where they urged the crowd to send love to Charlie Kirk's family lol.

[-] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 weeks ago

It's okay, if Coldplay is a honeypot to lure execs onto camera to self-own

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

Damn lol. Didn't think I could like coldplay any less.

[-] trailee@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 weeks ago

This disturbs me in the best way. I love/hate it.

I wonder how long they can run this before their backend database vendor cuts them off with some flimsy pretext because this kind of thing is bad for business.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No backend database needed for what they did. It was just highlighting where the faces are in a shot of the crowd, same as modern smartphone cameras do, but with a surveillance-type UI around it.

[-] trailee@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks, I just watched the video linked by @spizzat2@lemmy.zip and I see that now. It’s actually a little disappointing and I’d love to see the same kind of public spectacle on hard mode with real-time doxxing from a commercial backend. That would be far more provocative.

I think the article hugely understated that nuance.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Most people don't know the difference, as made clear by the reactions of the public, comments on other social platforms, and the wording of the articles. So it's just as powerful as it was.

[-] trailee@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I will agree that it was still powerful. All of the phone videos would memorialize any real doxxing so it’s maybe just as well that they didn’t do it.

I think it would be better with minor obfuscation like F***e L***e for Firstname Lastname. Something instantly recognizable to the victims/participants but not for the entire audience.

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[-] prole 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Pretty cool... But anyone else get major AI vibes from the way this article is written?

Why even become a journalist anymore if you're just going to be putting prompts into a black box and copy/pasting the output?

[-] beegnyoshi@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago

This article gives me vibes that someone wrote a few lines outlining the situation and asked the AI to write the article itself. Interestingly though, I think most people would just rather read the outline, less time wasted and less llm.

A part that screams AI would be:

This wasn’t subtle venue security—your biometric data became part of the artistic statement, whether you consented or not.

"This isn't this--it's that" is an extremely common AI sentence structure, further exposed by the fact that the part before the em-dash doesn't even make sense to begin with. No one was asking themselves whether it was part of subtle venue security.

As a sidenote, sometimes I read sentences like this and I wonder "could this ever even have been written by a human?" I think that there's a very low chance that this article didn't have at least some amount of AI involved, but I know that somewhere out there there must be some people who actually write like this. And that's kind of sad.

tbh I don't even know why I even wrote this, the entire article appears to be one big example of generic AI writing

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[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Good. People don't understand implications until it happens to them. Suddenly they don't like this security features anymore because it became personal.

We need more people to experience that discomfort

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 18 points 2 weeks ago

People getting mad at massive attack are missing the point completely

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago

Nice, face recognition surveillance for sure is because to protect our childrens.

[-] fort_burp@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's crazy that suicide among youth has gone up in the past 20 years. Whatever they're doing to "protect the children" they need to stop.

[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

the 20th anniversary of mezzanine @ radio city with full orchestral band all instrumental was wiiiiild too; kudos!

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

https://x.com/IpswichPolice/status/1892910824517177743

I do trust Massiva Attack more than this violent gang of thugs

[-] fluckx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

That was one god awful website. Holy shit. Why would anybody willingly visit that site. Wtf

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[-] fluckx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I got a video that started playing which only had an arrow to expand but no x to close. It kept following while scrolling.

Not sure why my ad blocker didn't block it.

Edit: after staying on the page for about a minute it just auto showed up

Gadget website showing video playing

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

Citizen, this is the warm embrace of Father State and Mother Country taking care of you. Everywhere. All the time. We care about you. We worry about you. And if we feel like you need help, we will help.

[-] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It wasn't live. They use the same footage at every concert.

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Was this an attack or just some artistic BS? The article is unclear. Mostly because the article wasn't written by a person.

[-] dwemthy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Massive Attack is the name of the band. The article was not ambiguous about that

[-] dmention7@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

I definitely parsed the headline wrong at first! But c'mon, even if you've never heard of the band, the second sentence of the article links to their webpage...

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'll gladly introduce you to Massive Attack because it seems you never heard of these Trip Hop legends from Bristol.

https://youtu.be/u7K72X4eo_s

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you live in a city (not only) anywhere, you are on at least 5-10 security cams when you leave your home on the way to work or the store, more counting those in your workplace and the store. Unknown how much are with face recognition soft. Think of it, you are tagget.

Worst knowing that a lot of live cams are even with public access and even streaming on YouTube.

[-] vane@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Welcome to The Truman Show.

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