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[-] popjam@lemmy.world 246 points 2 weeks ago

A Wall Street Journal report, citing an ATF bulletin, had previously said the casings were “engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology.” The transgender symbols were later understood to relate to markings identifying the manufacturer.

And a third unfired case read: “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”

FBI director concludes speech with "Rest now, my brother, we have the watch, and I'll see you at Valhalla"

Reality is satire

[-] dnick@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 weeks ago

He did not seriously say the valhalla line, did he? Please tell me that was actual satire?

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 69 points 2 weeks ago

FBI director is a nutcase

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 weeks ago

Who is this trans-ideology ammunition manufacturer?

Is trans ideology even a thing? I thought it was just people trying to live authentic lives?

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago

Is trans ideology even a thing?

That's called a Linux subreddit

I thought it was just people trying to live authentic lives?

It is

But fascists are trying to genocide us and will use any tool available to them

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 32 points 2 weeks ago

https://www.transjournalists.org/tja-urges-caution-in-reporting-on-details-of-charlie-kirk-shooting-investigation/

It should also be noted that “transgender ideology” is a term coined for and used in anti-trans political messaging to falsely equate identity with politics, which is a way to frame transgender identity as a political choice rather than an innate identity.

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[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

"I'll see you in Valhalla"

Obvious Nazi dogwhistle is obvious.

Nazis are obsessed with Norse mythology.

[-] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

This is true and as I am familiar with Norse mythology neither of them are eligible to go there.

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[-] dnick@sh.itjust.works 160 points 2 weeks ago

Can we find the person who, for no apparent reason, interpreted manufacturers markings as apparent 'trans ideology' and ask him wtf that was supposed to accomplish? I mean if you don't know what some markings mean, aside from blatant bias is there any possible way to get to 'trans ideology' from manufacturers markings? Are they using male/female icons? Emojis? Printing them in rainbow colors?

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 85 points 2 weeks ago

EDIT: the misinterpretation may actually be a series of arrows related to a Helldivers 2 move. Up, right, down, down, down. There is an anti fascist icon of three downward arrows. I'm guessing the idiots thought the other two arrows looked like those astrological gender icons and decided that must mean trans somehow.

TRN. It's the manufacturers code for a Turkish company called Turan. That's what I heard at any rate.

Identifying that as trans is just rank incompetence. Anyone that stupid would be fired in a sane world. Under our fascist regime, new FBI director incoming.

[-] possumparty 62 points 2 weeks ago
[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

It sounds like someone had a theory and Patel went off before any research could be done. Not to defend the fbi but it sounds like they did what they are supposed to it's Patel who keeps fucking up

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 20 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not a gun person but my understanding is that no one who's looked at bullets could mistake a manufacturer's imprint. Where it is and what it looks like preclude it being anything else. It would be like confusing a barcode for a brandname.

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 124 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I opened up Ground News today and the mainstream news sources are just full of this statement that the bullets were "engraved with transgender ideology." Someone has been making very sure this falsehood is the message all the journalists take away and report. And now it has been all over the news throughout the day.

It's horrible seeing the fascists lie and lie to set up trans people as villains and enemies.

And what's with this "anti-fascist ideology" thing? Remember before 2015 when anti-fascist ideology was just the default and the baseline for being even a half-decent person?

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Damned straight.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 34 points 2 weeks ago

Reminder that Ground news exists entirely to push a "both sides" narrative in a world where right wing media openly seeks to push "alternative facts" and big lies.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 86 points 2 weeks ago

"Family member" narc'ed.

Important lesson everyone, listen up: someone will always narc. It's a surveillance society in a heavily propagandized world. Your right to remain silent is all you get.

[-] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 2 weeks ago

he called his dad and confessed. his dad advised him to turn himself in. he said he'd rather commit suicide. his dad called his youth pastor to talk him down, who called the US marshals to secure him. I feel bad for the dad.. that's got to be a genuinely horrible situation to navigate.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

Youth pastor calling the marshals man. Cold.

Would Jesus narc on you? Friend, he would not. Mostly because he didn't exist but still. As a character that is not consistent.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

Jesus did actually exist. He was like a guy that was really there at some point

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 20 points 2 weeks ago

Not the dude in the Bible, because the things he's supposed to have done are impossible. So probably there was some dude that did or said some things and then got a bunch of folklore attached to him. A certain amount of the jesus story comes from contemporaneous myths - IIRC, a virgin birth was a common one.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

So probably there was some dude that did or said some things and then got a bunch of folklore attached to him.

Yeah. Likely Osiris. Almost all of the Jesus stories are taken from earlier solar deity “myths” and put into 1CE Judea. Like a graduate school production of Richard III in space with cigarettes.

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[-] actualaccount@sopuli.xyz 67 points 2 weeks ago

Inscriptions on a fired casing read: “notices bulges” capital “O-W-O what’s this?”

Imagine having to say that at a press conference.

[-] mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 weeks ago

So to sum up, Charlie Kirk was downplaying gun violence in the US, and using a racist dogwhistle to do so, WHILE standing under a giant fucking "prove me wrong" banner, when he was shot with a bullet labeled "OWO what's this?" by a Mormon cop's kid from Utah (ie, whiter than raisins in potato salad).

That is an actual fucking series of events that actually fucking happened. We've gone past "the onion is reality" to "this would be too on the nose if it was an onion article and yet it's somehow reality".

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[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 60 points 2 weeks ago

And a third unfired case read: “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”

Fuckin' lawl

[-] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

"Did it for the lulz" old meme checks out.

[-] ObscureOtter@piefed.ca 49 points 2 weeks ago

The other inscriptions on the fired casings:

“notices bulges”

capital “O-W-O what’s this?”

Inscriptions on the three unfired casings:

“hey fascist!” “catch!” Up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols.

“Oh Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Ciao, Ciao.”

“If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”

Also:

A Wall Street Journal report, citing an ATF bulletin, had previously said the casings were “engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology.” The purported transgender symbols were later understood to relate to markings identifying the manufacturer.

[-] OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 61 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This says that the "sequence of arrows" was interpreted as a transgender symbol.

Now we know that the sequence of arrows was "up, right, down, down, down"

...that's the strategem code for the 500kg bomb in helldivers 2.

The ATF interpreted a video game reference as a transgender symbol...

Edit: another claim I'm seeing, quote from snopes:

Some users online claimed officials had misinterpreted "TRN," an engraving found on ammunition produced by Turan Ammunition, a Turkish company, as "transgender ideology."

This is a more logical mistake to make but is also an embarrassing and irresponsible mistake from the ATF if true.

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 weeks ago

Ah and here I was hoping for the konami code

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

How was it engraved? Did the guy own some sort of engraving rig? How did he fit all this text on a bullet?

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[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 weeks ago

Hey can someone tell me what the fuck "transgender ideology" means? Because to me that phrase makes absolutely zero sense

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

“Transgender ideology” is the outrageous radical belief that transgender people are people and deserve to be able to live their lives.

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[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

TRN. That's what was on the bullet. Which is a manufacturing mark.

Other things written on the bullets imply that the shooter idolizes Nick Fuentes, and is, in fact, somthing called a Groyper.

As a note, Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk.

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[-] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 23 points 2 weeks ago

Pics or it didn’t happen

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