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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago

And the NY Times helped. Carrying water for war criminals lost the dems the election. Heck of a job, NY Times.

[-] plant_sorceress_420@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

the dems are very capable of losing an election on their own

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The paper of record.

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Pish posh you and your writey stick. We, the scientists are just as good as sciencing as we ever have been. (More money please)

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 51 points 2 days ago

America is likely unique among superpowers, as it is INTENTIONALLY trying to commit suicide. Other empires throughout time died from disaster, neglect, and "fuck that guy", but never quite in this fashion.

America has no reasonable excuse for what it did to itself, and will be a case study for millennia to come.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

Millennia seems wildly optimistic on this trajectory

[-] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

"We'll show all those pointy headed smarty pants who's boss!! We're taking over!"

-- MAGA mouth breathers

[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

This story is brought to you by the NYT in more ways than one.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Guess we have to recommend kids who want to do real science in their future to learn Chinese or Korean.

[-] squirrel 127 points 2 days ago

After years of giving a platform to climate change denialism, transphobic fearmongering, pearl clutching over too much woke at liberal colleges, both-sideing the efficacy of vaccines and indulging in Covid conspiracy nonsense, the NYT has finally achieved its goal.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

It's time for America's Great Leap Forward.

[-] psoul@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

What a perfect moment as we are at the edge of a cliff

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

And a great big dollop of Lysenkoism 2.0.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

I used to wonder how Lysenko pulled all of that off. Like, they were backward days in a backward country, and the whole world was still just kind of getting the hang of science. But now, here's RFK Jr who doesn't even believe in germs, filling our science administration with lackeys, half the country cheering him on, and I'm thinking that university grant departments are going to be getting Political Officers soon.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

It was all politics, just as it is now. People already very much knew how to conduct proper scientific endeavors, but the Communist Party wasn't going to do anything so "bourgeois" as practice actual science.

I've long thought of Republicans talking about "true conservatism" sounding almost exactly like the Communists in their delusions, now we see the culmination of their ridiculous ideology and their efforts to inflict it on everyone else.

They now have their very own Lysenko. Hopefully it doesn't get to the execution of Bobby Brainworm's opponents:

The official support emboldened Lysenko and gave him and Prezent free rein to slander any geneticists who still spoke out against him. After Lysenko became head of the Soviet Academy of Agricultural Sciences, classical genetics began to be called "fascist science"[28] and many of Lysenkoism's opponents, such as his former mentor Nikolai Ivanovich Vavilov, were imprisoned or executed, although not on Lysenko's personal orders.[29][22]

The sheer insanity did not confine itself to only genetics, either. Keep in mind this was in the mid-20th century, FFS. Killing who knows how many millions as a result...

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

half the country cheering him on

Half seems like a vast overestimation. Most of the people around me are checked out and get uncomfortable when politics comes up. Go strike up a conversation with a stranger, ask them about current events and what they think is going wrong. More than any other thing happening, the price of groceries is what's actually on their mind.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Kennedism is the new Lysenkoism

[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I didn't have this on my bingo card when i was growing up. I was told we were the science superpower and the best country in the world.

Now you realize they were all lies.

[-] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 days ago

A healthy, well educated population which feels safe and secure is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but we got to own the libs. Are we not "great", again?

Also, outlets like the New York Fucking Times get to pretend to just float above it all, being "objective" in their reporting, because - say it with me - "both sides".

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago

We definitely are something again. The hate for the mere mention of "progressive" in this country is baffling. Like a toddler that doesn't want to grow up.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

It's especially stupid because we tend to poll progressive on the issues. And yet we keep getting regressive policy.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 2 days ago

Its not in danger or peril, its already dead. China is already the leader.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 days ago

Well the country was colonized by religious nutjobs that didn't like the rise of intellectualism and enlightenment in Europe so this is rather more of a return to form.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 2 days ago

That is a gross simplification. We're the first people here great people? Absolutely not! But to boil them down to one zinger is very dishonest, at best. And remind me what was going down in Europe around that time? Oh, the church was murdering people that didn't prescribe to their very specific belief structure, including scholars?

Here's some good key words for you to try searching the next time you're making shit up about that time period.

Hasbergs

Fredrick V

Matthias

[-] prole 11 points 1 day ago

The "first people here" were the natives we massacred

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

To be fair the pilgrims were offered sanctuary in other countries first and then got mad that everyone wasn't exactly like them. That said a lot of the other initial colonizers were people being outright evicted from their home countries for non-religious reasons.

[-] Rothe@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hasbergs

Habsburgs?

Fredrick V

Who? There were lots of European monarchs of that name and number

Matthias

Who? It's a pretty common name.

[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

You're right. They were also a bunch of genocidal hypocrites who, "believed all men were created equal" yet enslaved multiple continents while raping their way across it

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

who, "believed all men were created equal"

Who claimed to believe...

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Yes we will destroy ourselves, but think of all the libs that will be owned!

[-] Arancello@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago

I think united states is envious of chairman Mao and wants to have their own cultural revolution too. Already had the military parade that outshone that of President Xi. Now have to outdo him in killing academics and intellectuals.

[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I think they view the downsides as temporary pain to achieve an end goal, which is an ethnostate for white people. Their philosophy hasn't been under the table at all, they say societies which benefit only one race (and obviously falsely, one set of beliefs), are better than those which have internal strife. All of this is laughable, since Israel has achieved as close to an ethnostate as we've seen, and yet they're unsustainable.

These people have failed upwards their entire lives, so they all feel confident that in the event of failure, they have the capital to smash and grab before the end using insider information. They're the worst humans on earth.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

joyous imaginative freedom.

That's what Americans have had in general for a long time. They think they are free, because they've been indoctrinated to think that, but compared to better democracies, they really aren't.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

We haven't been a scientific super power since the space race. The shuttle program was cool, but we even abandoned that.

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