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Scientific unprogress... (reddthat.com)

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[-] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 2 points 12 hours ago

Or you could say Scientific CONgress...

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[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

Some of the most high profile science news of this past decade have been in cloning and martian robotics

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 13 hours ago

Actually the physics model to use is typically the simplest one that works, i.e. that gets the job done.

When your job is to drive a truck to the nearest city, the curvature of the Earth is negligible and it's simpler to assume that the earth is flat, so that is the model that you should use.

As such, yeah, for 99% of use cases, the earth is flat.

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

If your truck is equipped with GPS then the Earth had better be round in your physics model.

[-] SippyCup@feddit.nl 11 points 13 hours ago

Did you just "UHM ACKtually the earth IS flat!"

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

How does a flat earth model simplify logistics?

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 18 points 22 hours ago

Narrator: it was not the last time.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

It took republicans a while to full dismantle everything. Their almost done now so, yay?

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 13 hours ago

I want to help them build that wall, so we can keep them inside, and watch what happens when a government does everything opposite of good.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

Also scientists today: Vaccines do not cause autism and actually work.

[-] nialv7@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Yeah but it was 90s scientist who said vaccines caused autism though. Which just invalidates the point this tweet was trying to make.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 8 points 17 hours ago

One single comment by one shitty doctor in a magazine. He didn't even say that. He basically said 'some parent thought that maybe their child started to exhibit autism-like symptoms shortly after receiving a vaccine'.

I am not fucking kidding you. That was it! No study, no control groups, no sample size. Nothing. Just one stray comment that is shorter than this one I am writing now and it is the foundation of their entire theory.

[-] prole 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Andrew Wakefield definitely published discredited studies though... Or at least one.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

Uh. No. It was a published paper in The Lancet, which they did not retract for 12 years. MDs have a lot of blame here.

[-] MJKee9@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

What is the blame we should place on them? The whole point of science is that shitty theories and great theories live in the same space. They're then evaluated by the collective body of scientists based upon the results of their tests. Eventually the shitty hypotheses dies off. No one is ever supposed to rely upon one study or even a few studies. It should take years and many studies before the results or conclusions should be relied upon by non-scientists.

So the blame is likely borne by a combination of the education system (explaining the importance of repeated scientific evaluation), the pervasiveness of lay "scientists" and *philosophers relying upon social media and other unreliable sources for their data, and the greater access that a random non-scientists have to studies that would normally be buried by time. Then you have people reaching their own conclusion and just finding a random study that supports that conclusion. That's the exact opposite of what the scientific method requires. The push by conservatives over the last few decades to erode scientific education (i.e creationism) is probably more likely to blame than any one scientist, doctor or certainly the medical/scientific community.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 15 hours ago

Look up Hbomberguy's video on the matter. It was the lancet, but it was an erroneous publication. Rare, but it happens. The study was grade A bullshit.

[-] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago

It was one "scientist" who by all accounts was a massive fraud and anyone with any semblance of smarts recognised that almost immediately. That the world is full of idiots is the problem.

[-] nialv7@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Wakefield did manage to fool peer reviewers and got his paper published in Lancet, a top-tier medical journal (and it took them 12 years to fully retract that paper). So I wouldn't say people recognized that immediately.

(And I just kinda hate "things were better in the past" type of arguments, in general. Things were shit back then, and things are shit now.)

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

That was last year.

Now it's.... Tylenol?

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[-] ngwoo@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

Sorry but due to new government policy it is illegal to study or even acknowledge weather

[-] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago

weather leads to climate, climate leads to fear...

Fear... leads to sOcIaLiSm!

[-] T156@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

You mentioned diverse weather conditions in your grant application, and we can't have that.

[-] prole 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

THIS ISNT EVEN AN EXAGGERATION.

We are so fucking cooked.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 143 points 1 day ago

Yes, the vaccines are... Are you feeding that baby unpasteurized milk?!? What the fuck, guys?

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[-] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 26 points 1 day ago

am I old or does nobody remember the name Dolly?

[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I seem to recall something about her working 9 to 5 and having an arch-nemesis called Jolene.

EDIT: Wait! Wait! I remembered! There was a sheep called Dolly who was a workaholic who had herself cloned to spend more time with her partner!

EDIT 2: Ok, I just did a web search. I was way off.

[-] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Of course we remember Dolly! She was stuffed and is on display in the National Museum of Scotland.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 75 points 1 day ago

Internet was a mistake. It gave all the anti science people and crackpots a platform for their ideas.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago

Making it easy was the mistake, the internet was great when knowing what tcp/ip actually is was a barrier to entry.

Gatekeeping isn't a dirty word.

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 day ago

This also exposed just how many stupid people are out there. We all assumed that making infinite knowledge available would be the rising tide which lifts all boats; instead, the rising tide is a tsunami of idiocy and willful ignorance.

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

I know that I was completely wrong in this regard. You know, like how Mark Twain said something like travel was anathema to bigotry.

So, I thought that the reason bigotry existed was that people are afraid of the unknown, so if you forced people together, they'd have to realize that we're all the same.

But now I realize that the main reason bigotry exists is that people are staying in contact with other bigots. The part about meeting diverse people is important, but far less important than pulling people out of their comfort zone to combat bigotry. So, the internet amplifies bigotry, because they'll never be out-of-contact with their local bigots, even if they travel away from them.

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[-] Baguette 22 points 1 day ago

I feel bad for field researchers that have to do studies on critically endangered species

Imagine trying for days to find a specimen and then end up having to reclassify it as extinct