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I am not an engineer. I'm not even good at math, and my spatial reasoning skills are nonexistent. With that in mind, here are the CAD programs I've tried.

Blender, Pros: Free, surprisingly comprehensive. Cons: Not parametric, can't precisely measure or constrain models, all the extra stuff you get like rendering has no use in 3D printing.

Onshape: Pros: Easy to use, convenient (I've successfully edited a model on my phone), free*. Cons: Runs ~~on someone else's computer~~ in the cloud, not private, enshittification is sure to come shortly if history is any indication.

Fusion360: Pros: seems to be what everyone else is using. Cons: enshittification is already happening, runs locally with limited saves in the cloud so you don't own your files but also don't get the run anywhere convenience of the cloud.

Plasticity: Pros: buttery smooth workflow, pay once run forever, runs and saves locally. Cons: Not peremetric so hard to go back and adjust things later.

FreeCAD: Pros: free, open source. Cons: workflow as rough as sandpaper, constantly crashes.

Plasticity and Onshape have proven to be the most productive choices for me. If only Plasticity were parametric it would be the perfect software for me personally.

I want to like FreeCAD, I really do, but it's so hard to use. I love Plasticity, but it's meant for making 3D assets for games etc. using hard surface modelling, not so much for manufacturing.

If I may digress for a moment, I work as a network admin. I'm familiar mostly with Cisco at work, but use Ubiquiti at home. Cisco equipment is monstrously expensive from a consumer or prosumer perspective, and the only way to get true hands-on experience is to buy used equipment from ebay which may still be pricey.

Ubiquiti's market strategy seems to be to make the kind of gear that a network admin would want in their home. It's inexpensive relative to the big fish like Cisco, but has a fairly comprehensive feature set. The idea is to entice Joe IT guy to buy Ubiquiti gear for his house, fall in love with it, then push for the company to switch to Ubiquiti the next time they upgrade.

What I want is the Ubiquiti of CAD programs. Easy to use, low barrier to entry but comprehensive enough to use professionally.

Suggestions/comments?

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[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago
[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

You can save files in fusion 360 locally. It's just not the main way the program encourages which sucks.

I think you have to like export instead pf save but you do get a .f3d file which is the same as what gets saved to the cloud.

[-] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Onshape would be ubiquity. Easy to use, flash, has all the good bits, ripe to screw the customer at any moment once enough lock in is gained.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Blender has addons for parametric workflows. Actually, there's plugins to do anything you want.

[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

I will be blunt. If you are as bad at math and spatial reasoning as you say, then CAD probably isn't for you. You will always find it difficult and unrewarding. Design and engineering require a mindset you might not have.

As far as "cheap and easy and professional" CAD they ALL require effort to learn and money to gain entry for commercial versions. CAD is a skill and skills require effort to acquire. And it sounds as if you have no desire to put in very much effort.

For a CAD program to meet your want of cheap and simple, (professional means a lot of money and takes more than a few minutes of effort), look at TinkerCAD. It's free and simple enough that I teach that to 5th and 6th grade students well enough for them to make simple objects. Ain't nothing wrong with starting there and learning how to think about design and CAD before you might try and step into more demanding software.

[-] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago
[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

Hey, horses don't say woof.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I tried using FreeCAD 5 or 10 years ago, and it was painful. I had access to Inventor, so I used that for the limited work I was doing. Later, I heard of some build/pack/whatever that removed a lot of pain from the FreeCAD workflow, but I can't remember what it was called and I wasn't doing CAD work any more. Trying to find that led me to this, though:

Ondsel ES Look

Also, I found a video on YouTube that appears to go through the same steps. Here it is.

I'm not sure it that will solve your problems, but the 20 minute video should answer that question for you.

[-] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

RS Design Spark?

I haven't used it in a few years but I remember it being alright for hobby stuff.

[-] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 hours ago

Solidworks has a cheap maker version. You can save locally. It's always been shit, so it can't get enshittified /s.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

My solution to the same issue was OpenSCAD. But it might not be for the faint of heart. For me, this is a godsend, working 100% in my mindspace.

[-] Decq@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

If they so said have no math or spatial reasoning then OpenSCAD is the last tool for them to try.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

As I said, it's right for me, but it might not be for everyone. If I was to invent a CAD system, I'd write something exactly like OpenSCAD...

[-] gungho4bungholes@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I use alibre, it’s a one time purchase

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

I got a 3d printer about a year ago and looked into CAD software and came to the exact same conclusion you just did. I ended up using Plasticity. I thiink I paid $150 for a year of updates. But there are still two major drawbacks: first is it's not parametric, as you said, but more importantly you can't import stls and edit them. You can export stls, but you have to make them from scratch. You can technically import an stl but it's impossible to edit. Oftentimes I find a design online but I want to tweak it to my purposes but I can't do that.

I'd love it if Free CAD had a better UI. It's just so frustrating and hideous to use.

[-] Doublenut@lemmy.zip 12 points 20 hours ago

I've been using progeCAD for the last few years and its basically a clone of AutoCAD for a fraction of the price and you own it unlike autodesk's model they've had since like 2017 or something.

[-] fluxx@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

I've been using freecad with great success for years now and I'd say while I agree freecad is rough in terms of ux, it is highly usable, especially after 1.0 version. I feel like investing time in overcoming its flaws and weaknesses will pay off in the future, as it will enable access to a stable, eternally free and reliable software. Though I also agree it crashes frequently, I set a very frequent auto save and I don't often get screwed now.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

FreeCAD is a spectacular second CAD tool to learn. Once you understand the concepts and workflows for one of the industry standard tools, you will know how to translate that to FreeCAD speak as it were.

As a first CAD tool it is atrocious. It crashes while you are exploring new tools and you just don't have the vocabulary (or muscle memory) to actually ask questions or search for answers.

If someone really wants to get into hobbyist CAD (for 3d printing), probably the best flow is to start with TinkerCAD, switch to Fusion 360 (assuming you aren't running linux. Onshape if you are), and once you are comfortable and can build basically whatever you want change to FreeCAD if you want more control over your toolchain.

And if someone wants to do this professionally? Fusion 360 is the endstate. Maybe you'll end up at a firm that uses the other family (which I think Onshape is part of?) but you will basically never find a company that wants FreeCAD formats.

[-] dodos@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

FreeCad was crashing on average every two minutes when I tried using it last month. I really want to like it but crashes need to be toned down...

[-] lukstru@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

I’ve been using it for months now and I had zero crashes. Is this a platform thing or just because I’m mostly only using the parts menu?

[-] dueuwuje@aussie.zone 4 points 16 hours ago

Yeah I have used Freecad for ages and never had an issue, also use an NVidia GPU. Hopefully you get your issue sorted, because freecad really is good and only getting better every time.

[-] fluxx@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Well, it definitely isn't suppose to be THAT bad. I can get a crash every half an hour or even longer. Usually for no apparent reason - like when I want to sketch on a face and the app switches from PartDesign workbench to sketcher or wise versa. And then after restart that doesn't happen again. That is annoying, has been happening for ages and would really like it to be fixed. But it's not every few minutes, more like half an hour to an hour.

[-] callcc@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Maybe use a release and not a weekly build?

[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

There's an entry missing in your list, which many people seem to not know about: Siemens Solid Edge

Like fusion, is free for personal/hobby use. But it's not "cloud based". Also unlike fusion, they aren't constantly scaling back what you can do with the free edition. Probably worth a shot.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago

I haven’t used it but there is also tinkercad

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 day ago

FreeCAD: Pros: free, open source. Cons: workflow as rough as sandpaper, constantly crashes.

It has a learning curve (like all software), yes. But I cannot confirm the crashes.

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 30 points 1 day ago

The 1.0.x versions have been rock solid for me. I like using it, but that might just be the Stockholm syndrome kicking in.

[-] KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah 1.0 has been quite stable for me. I especially recommend the weekly releases with features planned for 1.1, like better sketch projection tools and snapping.

[-] shelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

I love freecad but even the latest release has some occasional crashes. For instance if you try to use PartDesign_Chamfer or PartDesign_Fillet and then go back and edit any of the sketches those were applied to things start to get wacky.

[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago

You missed OpenSCAD but that might've been intentional if you're looking for something with low barrier to entry and a purely "visual" workflow. It's the diametric opposite of Blender, basically. Surprisingly non-comprehensive with very limited options of primitives to work with, but laser-focused on building precise, constrained, parametric models out of said primitives. The downside is that you have to code it. Like, in actual code. For the artistically-minded designer, it's probably not the right tool. But for people with the appropriate mental model and skillset, it's an extremely effective tool, and infinitely extensible. If you need to do something particularly complex, chances are someone's already written the functions and libraries to do it, and if you need to know how to do it too, you can just look at their code. Assuming you can read it.

The actual coding language itself is a bit janky and for me, counterintuitive and unpleasant in some ways. It certainly wouldn't be my first choice, but it's workable, and the elegance of the overall idea makes up for it. It's worth the extra investment in learning, and I can't go back to wrestling with what I find are clunky visual workflows anymore. I crave the hard numerical precision of actually and accurately defining the shapes I'm working with.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yes! This so much.

I am entirely convinced that one of the more underserved niches in software is domain-specific languages for doing traditionally-mousey/clicky/GUI things. I'm so convinced of that that I've written just such a DSL and am actively working on a second one.

About the only really good examples of that that I know of are OpenSCAD and Graphviz. (And I guess the one I wrote.) I've love to know about more. (And, no, libraries that make GUI-sort-of use cases easier in some general purpose language don't count. There's really something about having syntax/builtins/standard library custom made specifically for the use case that I'm quite convinced has major benefits to overall usability.)

About OpenSCAD specifically, I also have some nit-picks about the language. There are cases where I've written code in other languages that outputs OpenSCAD code specifically to get around some limitations. (There's one project I'm working on and haven't Open Sourced yet that just begs so hard for maps/dicts/string-keyed-composite-types. And the ability to use modules as values. (Like, making it more of a "functional" language... or rather a "moduleal" language.)) But like you, none of that detracts enough to make me not love OpenSCAD.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 16 hours ago

About the only really good examples of that that I know of are OpenSCAD and Graphviz.

Like, things that take in a text file with programming capabilities describing what to generate? I can think of a couple off the top of my head.

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[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

Blender has an add on project called cad sketches in development. It's free to use and is donation supported just like Blender is. I haven't used it myself but it wouldn't hurt looking into it.

https://www.cadsketcher.com/

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You can buy add-ons for this to auto-generate standard gear-forms and threads/bolts/holes. It is also parametric.

https://youtu.be/1jNDLUDL0gc

[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 16 points 1 day ago

Solidworks is probably the Cisco of cad software, and a license for casual home use is only 48/year

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I'm intrigued but confused. What's the difference between 3DEXPERIENCE and xDesign? Are they the same thing or different? Do you need both or just one or the other? They're called "packages" so do you need some kind of base install and then choose which package to put on top of it? All of the demonstration videos show it running in a browser but people in this thread are complaining about lack of Linux support

[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

Unfortunately I have no clue - my wife's the one that uses this, not me haha.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

I absolutely looove SolidWorks! But I have moved to linux and am hoping to find something like it without resorting to wine or some such.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

Solidworks doesn't do Linux. Period. We tried all options. Solidedge does Linux under the very right circumstances.

Fusion does it, but is shit with even more shit after every update.

FreeCAD is sadly also completely unusable for a semiprofessional or professional use and so... Linux and CAD do not mix well at the moment. It's the only reason I still have a dual boot atm.

[-] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago

BricsCAD is pretty good on Linux

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

That's depressing. Thanks for sharing your knowledge so the rest of us don't have to figure this out the hard way.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I saw a bit ago that blended has an addon or plugin or something that adds parametric functions

I think I got the impression it's less powerful that proper parametric cad or something, but I figured I'd mention it in case that makes it a more viable option for you!

[-] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Depending on your system I think, I have been using Sketchup 2017 (whatever the last free version was they released) for years to make 3D models for all kinds of purposes, incl 3D printing. For my brain it has proven to be the most intuitive tool to learn, it’s been a really long time so maybe I have forgotten but I feel like the barrier to entry was pretty small. There is a lot of content out there from people giving tips and tutorials. There are plug-ins still flooding around that have really good functionality. I use it with a Connexion 3D Space Navigator mouse that’s prob 10+ years old. That’s been a godsend and adds so much efficiency and flow to the tool.

I don’t know if you can still download it from Trimble but there are sources for it elsewhere.

Have fun, whatever you choose.

[-] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 5 points 22 hours ago

I use a free version of sketchup make from 2008. You can still find it out there on the internet for download.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

I really don't understand why people have so much trouble with FreeCAD. It does everything the other software does, it just crashes on occasion.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

It just crashes on occasion.

Yeah you see, that's kind of a deal breaker.

[-] scoobydoo27@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

FreeCAD is dogshit if you have any other experience with commercial software.

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