Edit: Replaced PayPal with Starlink
When you are buying from a local farm, you are supporting the trump-voting farmer... 👀
(Its The Good Place problem all over again, somewhere in the supply chain, there's a piece of shit, and you're still technically contributing to evil)
Local farmers don't donate dark money to SuperPACs
Let us just be real here for a second. The solution has already been thought up and planned. Just like a bad marriage, some time apart will make one reconsider life choices.
So let all the nazi's go to space, have their happy mars, 'The Expanse' style.
Then after we'll see how we feel about each other. Breakup or no, no love lost.
I support Elon musk being the first human to crash land on Mars.
While you bought a Tesla, I studied the blade.
While you posted on X, I studied the blade.
I don't know why it's so hard to get people to care about things. It's not like twitter is some vital service. But people are just like, "meh, it's funny." What tepid slop do these people have where their soul should be?
It doesn't personally affect them and or they have more pressing shit happening in the day-to-day
I went to a gay camp earlier this year and a couple of the RVs had starlinks. They don't care and they don't think their dollars matter.
In fact I had a whole chat with my boss today about Chick Filet, he asked if I was boycotting (and said his gay daughter is too). He then launched into this spiel about how you're always supporting evil somehow so it doesn't matter.
I'm like, yeah but not one penny of my money goes to them, and that's all I can care about.
Have you watched "The Good Place"? It does a pretty good job diving into the ethical minefield that is modern life (specifically even mentioning Chick Fil A)
Boycotting everything evil is hard because there's so much.
Like, I avoid nestle, musk and Zuckerberg, and mostly avoid Amazon, but I'm still definitely paying evil billionaires for a bunch of my other shit.
When this comes up, which isn't that often, I typically ask them where the line is. Like, presumably there's something a company could do that's so evil that they wouldn't support it. What is it, for them? Crushing babies live on TV? That's probably too far, right? So then we can sort of do a binary search between that line and where we are, and try to find what is too much for them. I suspect for many people it's "am I personally, immediately, harmed by this, in a way I can't rationalize?"
Oh I like this, thank you.
Human brains are sadly very predisposed to convenience over spending extra effort, especially when that convenience is the established norm; we tend to resist change unless that extra effort will bring a noticeable and immediate personal benefit. Degrees of separation from the act and the harm is also a big factor, most people stop thinking beyond a certain point and just go "it's not that deep".
It takes a lot of education and introspection about complex topics to understand how the "harder way" is actually cumulatively easier and brings more benefits but that also brings with it accepting certain truths one used to believe about the fundamental workings of the world they based all of their actions and even their identity on are actually falsehoods but the brain really, really hates that.
This is a key concept in writing enforceable legislation to get people to change habits. Had to learn about it in a class for my degree for wildlife conservation. The way is somehow exploiting how the way our brains work to trick them into believing that the decision to change is not only the best and easiest option but also that it was their idea to do so in order to allow their brain to handwave any inconsistency in their internal logic instead of fighting against their cognitive dissonance trying to change it by force.
Generally, people aren't bad people, they are just dumb primates who are trying their damnedest to live as easily as possible with the least amount of conflict while still feeling that they and their loved ones are protected from perceived harm. They "care" but they don't really think about what that means beyond a very, very limited scope of their immediate existence. After a certain point, arbitrary to each individual that will change at any given moment, they begin to wonder what it all has to do with the price of tea in China.
So don't convince them to care about the price of tea but instead how the price of tea will affect something they do care about in their lives.
Seconded.
It's not like twitter is some vital service.
Well, unless you're an indie artist.
Mastodon is a thing, so is BlueSky. Sometimes you just need to let go and start anew (not even from zero, you just inform your active followers where to find you, people who don't follow are probably inactive anyways, YOU are the content, YOU have the power to move people), and such effort is needed if you are interested in maintaining a decent community (I seen a lot of people are too afraid to prune their communities because numbers would go down)
you just inform your active followers where to find you, people who don’t follow are probably inactive anyways, YOU are the content, YOU have the power to move people)
This is absolutely true. I support Majority Report, and they use some small platform I've never even heard of. Don't give a single shit.
TBF the Nazis were pretty instrumental in the development of rockets.
I don't see an issue with recruiting them, if they were treated like prisoners and not guests.
Like do you think they should just get off so easy like a quick death, nah fam, make them work as punishment.
Yes, we know. At least I hope. Doesnt mean we have to continue
There's Tesla stocks in my socially responsible ETF. What should I do?
A bit day tradey, but short the stock, or sell covered calls? That way you don't profit from the stock, and you can even make some theoretically risk-free money from people investing in Tesla and/or dilute Musk's call options.
Divest. Invest in individual stocks you believe in which don't profit off of war, and literal Nazi shit.
Micromanaging individual stocks is super risky and basically a full-time job.
Yea that's kinda by design unfortunately.
Musk doesn’t own PayPal, nor any shares of it. It’s owned by eBay.
And yet. Peter Thiel is also a Nazi, so using PayPal still benefits Nazis.
Thiel ~~was kicked out of~~ sold PayPal. Where are yall getting this PayPal connection with nazis? Sheesh.
Edit: sorry I had that backwards. Musk was kicked out, thiel sold. Back in 2002. Literally 23 years ago.
Thank you. I've replaced PayPal with starlink
Oh so this is a Photoshop? For a moment I thought Teslas were hacked and showing these messages to everyone. That would have been neat.
This is Lemmy. This content was GIMPed. I wouldn't even pirate Adobe products.
I tried to match a picture of a Tesla error as much as possible however.
aw how unfortunate, I was hoping someone hacked the tesla update system to send those alerts.
"Photoshop" is a verb. No need for the pedantry. You know what I meant.
If we keep using it we can make it make it take the same fate as kleenax and aspirin
Oh so this is a Photoshop?
Looks like a noun to me, dawg.
Its not a verb I use. Try a better lexicon.
Edit: Lesson 9 of On Tyranny: Be kind to our language.
Avoid pronouncing the phrases everyone else does. Think up your own way of speaking, even if only to convey that thing you think everyone is saying. Make an effort to separate yourself from the internet. Read books.
Ok
I’m with you. “This is shopped” will never leave usage for me
That's... Well, I don't like eBay, but it's better eLon.
Don't give money to Nazis no matter what.
But it does help that each and everyone of those brand objectively suck in their respective field.
Objectively not true for spacex. I wish like hell it was owned by someone else.
If only people would take this stuff to heart. Tesla prices haven't budged 🤷
Difficult list to look at for a few reasons. Some of these ventures plowed the way forward in their respective field.
Even after the 'innovation plateau' of a few of these ventures, at least the engineers and other experts that actually did the innovating would be able to go work for the competition. At least in theory.
It must be stressful to be in a position doing work you are skilled at - and might even enjoy - while your company's leadership is publicly committed to causes that go against your belief systems.
Though I suppose that's not a problem unique to organisations beneath Musk.
Eutalsat please, we want OneWeb for residential use :D
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