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When the accusation means the death penalty with no trial, nobody is safe

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[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 hours ago

Judge Judy and executioner.

[-] prole 18 points 1 day ago

Anyone still deluded into thinking he's not a dictator yet?

[-] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

So now he's trying the Duterte flavor of dictatorship.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

SCOTUS has given POTUS (not just Cheeto chimp) immunity. Of course Trump will do whatever he wants.

[-] SnotFlickerman 160 points 1 day ago

That raises the question of whether Mr. Trump has legitimate authority to tell the military to summarily kill people it suspects are smuggling drugs — and whether the administration allowed career military lawyers to weigh in.

Eat shit NYT, fuck this sanewashing bullshit. "Raises the question"my ass! He absolutely does not have the authority because the law fucking says so! Why does the media bend over fucking backward to lick their own assholes by acting like these are even questions to be answered‽ They have completely abdicated their duty as journalistic media. "Fourth estate" absolute bullshit capitulation to rogue powers with dictatorial intent.

[-] oxysis 46 points 1 day ago

Because the media is owned by billionaires so they want to push for anything which expands their power and control

[-] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago

Extra judicial killings are bread and butter for US presidents, made really popular by Obama.

This is of course fucked, but there are clear precedents for presidents killing any one, including US citizens, they name a terrorist.

[-] absentbird@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

The deaths from Obama's drones were no less judicial than the deaths from Bush's troops, both were carried out within the definition of the 'war on terror', which was approved by Congress.

Trump's strike on that Venezuelan boat was outside of the approved scope.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

Obama killed US citizens who were in Al-Qaida and ISIS training camps. I'd have done the same. Those fuckers are fair game.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 10 hours ago

US citizens are innocent until proven guilty. We do not allow our leaders to Proclaim guilt and execute even if it is overseas. We should have the same policy for foreigners as well. Anybody who thinks they can trust our politicians and leaders to execute people based on their own reasoning is quite mistaken.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

We should have the same policy for foreigners as well.

So when we were storming the beaches of Normandy, we put each Nazi soldier shooting at us on trial first? Funny, I don't recall ever reading that we did that.

Or going back a bit further, what about those Confederate soldiers? They were all US citizens, even if they claimed otherwise. The US government never accepted the fact that they were anything but insurrectionists (which is all that they were). It's only the Confederate framing that claims they were an independent state during that time.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

Fighting battles in a real war and intercepting civilian ships and international waters and killing everybody on board is not the same thing. It is an incredible argument to compare storming the beaches at Normandy with shooting a small boat out of the water in the Caribbean right now.

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

You got it all wrong. Extra judicial killings outside the US are Gucci. Inside the US you're only allowed judicial killings and obvious 'suicides'.

[-] gigiocor@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 day ago

Show me where it was allowed to kill George Floyd then...

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That was a police force, not the Fed. The Police are allowed to judiciously kill within the US. The Fed is allowed to judiciously kill outside the US.

Sheesh man, learn geography. And sarcasm.

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[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

When have Americans ever given a single fuck about Latin Americans? Except to overthrow their governments when they goddam feel like it. Trump murdered some rando Latinos on a tiny boat with an outboard motor with like, an aircraft carrier, and broadcast it online. Americans literally give absolutely zero fucks if he does illegal shit to them, why would they care if he annihilates brown people.

The US is a rogue fascist country.

[-] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago

Wait, what? I haven't heard about this.

[-] bigfondue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was within the last day or two. Near Venezuela. They blew up a boat they claim was smuggling drugs. They didn't even attempt to board it, just shot a missile and killed seven people.

Rubio and Trump were bragging about it.

The fact that so much shit has happened and it's still the early days of the 2nd Trump administration is depressing.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

Can you believe it hasn't even been 8 months since he was sworn in

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Were you not here for the first one?

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There were railgaurds and they were mostly political novices the first time

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[-] switcheroo@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Just how many kids did he rape??? Now he's KILLING PEOPLE in order to detract from the Epstein files!

[-] SnotFlickerman 23 points 1 day ago

I think you forgot that Trump just likes killing people, regardless of the Epstein files.

Bill Barr literally had to dangle death row inmates he could put to death in front of Trump like keys for a baby to get him to focus on certain things. Literally having to bribe him with murdering people to get him to pay attention.

Trump would be doing this anyway, don't give him weak excuses like he's trying to cover something up. He is a fucking monstrous person plain and simple.

[-] aeternum 2 points 9 hours ago

on the one hand, I hope dumpy is dying, and hopefully very painfully. on the other hand, I want to see him in prison. What do i wish for?

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

I am hoping he leads Neo Confederates to defeat in a 2nd American Civil War. Trump is a symptom of the evils that have settled deep into the foundations of America. We need to do a proper Reconstruction to remove the malice and stupidity.

Of course, I would also like Trump to be the Orange Mussolini when justice finds him.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 days ago

Some idiot in Houston decided he had a right to summarily execute a child for playing a harmless prank

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah but he'll most likely go to jail for murder. Call me crazy but I don't think that will happen here.

[-] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago

In Texas he'll probably get a quick draw award. Do you know how fast those kids run? Dude must have been chomping at the bit for years to end one of those quick, little fuckers.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago

Does drug smuggling usually result in a death penalty if convicted? If not, then it shouldn't warrant execution without trial

[-] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 10 hours ago

Regardless the accused have a right to defend themselves in court, the authorities do not establish guilt juries do. In or out of the us, citizen or no.

Unless self defense, they are not calling that specifically to set precedent of extrajudicial killing with armed forces. Next stop stateside.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 days ago

Even if it did, the trial bit is pretty important.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

I'm not aware of the US imposing the death penalty for smuggling.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

America, not Trump.

Wear it.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago

No?? I didn't vote for this shit

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

United States of America, this is America

[-] Pegajace@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

No, that’s “The Americas.” In English, it’s widely understood that “America” on its own is referring to the USA.

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[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago
[-] aeternum 1 points 9 hours ago

speak for yourself.

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