"First they came for the transgenders' guns, but I didn't speak up because I'm not transgender..."
Yep.. well 2nd amendment folks are hypocrites apparently. Shocker.
I don’t think Trump is popular for this. The NRA has already come out publicly they are against this. Rednecks hate trans people but they hate anyone who threatens to take guns away from citizens more it looks like.
Yeah, I had a feeling that would happen.
A republican shoots up a school and nobody sees any issue with Republican ideology, but the second a trans person does we've gotta take away the guns, right?
Lefties and trans folk, arm up. If you haven't bought your piece yet, start the application process. Once you have it, it becomes almost impossible for them to take it away by force.
I think you mean the only way they'll take it is by force, and they will if they choose to do so. You aren't going to stop a SWAT team (or worse.)
It's not about stopping a specific incident. It's about sowing enough fear in their little piggy hearts that they think twice.
Personally I'm more worried about a caravan of lifted F250s with MAGA flags rolling through my neighborhood but everyones threat model is a little different.
Dems be like: "I allow it"
Remember: "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." -Karl Marx
Armed Minorities are harder to oppress.
Dems are okay with this?
e: I’ll take that as a no
Fun twist… NRA is like “hell nah!”
Originally the NRA was super against people actually carrying firearms around.
Originally, Republicans were against gun control.
Trans people are statistically underrepresented among mass shooters. If we are targeting high risk demographics we should start with white men.
If this is allowed to happen. This will just be the start.
Trans folks, get your guns while you can. They might be the difference between freedom or going to RFK's "wellness" farms. As an autistic who will someday be targeted, I intend to stand on the line of battle with you.
Having a gun will not protect you from the military, which is now our enemy.
There is only the option to run and I encourage trans people to begin executing those plans I know you've been making to get to higher ground. Pool your resources, go together, support each other.
To not fight is compliance in advance, which is a great source of power and comfort for fascism.
Further, it isn't likely for the whole of the American military to be aligned with the Trump Regime. Odds are that we will have a civil war - and one side will have minorities serving, many of whom are competent people who have been exiled by the Trump Regime from all sectors of government: Military, intelligence, bureaucratic, and more. Already, the west coast Blue States are forming their own vaccine coalition to replace the loss of Federal services. That is the sign of an upcoming secession, as the Blue States form mutual services that are not dependent on the support of the Trump Regime.
Aside from all of that, America historically had difficulty against guerillas, whom tend to have small arms and communities. Freedom fighters within America's borders are likely to be even more successful than their foreign peers, simply because ICE would run the risk of turning entire cities or states against the government. Foreign guerillas couldn't quickly influence the politics of America much, because they aren't American nor close to home.
it makes you a harder target. think of the SovCit and cult groups that squatted on Federal land for years. the government popped a couple (Waco and Ruby Ridge) but in others (e.g. the Bundy standoff, Malheur) the fringe groups were somewhat successful. sure, maybe in part because they were white male conservatives, but I think also because the government knew it'd be a bloody mess, and likely cause them casualties too. most cops are cowards. will they risk life and limb to bag a trans person?
basically, the goal is just to make it hard to round us up, not impossible. it's harder to sweep us up if we're strapped.
It's ok, I have 2
What part if "shall not be infringed" do these fuckers not understand?
Ah see you're making a common mistake when reading the law. Republican's shall not be infringed, Democrats shall be infringed. It's a common mistake to assume the Republicans will respect others rights, they don't. They want all the rights for themselves and laws to apply to everyone else.
An in-group whom the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group whom the law binds but does not protect.
This is going to result in either the left arming themselves in a way that will give them political power comparable to the right.
Or the courts will set a legal precedent for gun control regulations.
While I'm disgusted by the fact that it's a targeted act of persecution, this could be the Trump DOJ setting up a long-term win for the left.
Gun control would not be a win for anyone, especially not on the left.
Liberals love gun control
Leftists do not
IDK, I consider myself pretty far left, and generally pro 2A, but I'd be OK with some gun control. I feel like you can grasp the political value of firearms, and also not want a paranoid schizophrenic with a history of violence to have unfettered access to firearms.
I think as a society we can walk and chew gum, and I don't think that makes me Hillary Clinton.
Ahah, the US right finally found someone that they don't want armed to the teeth.
I'm sure they have a whole list, this just happens to be their favored first domino
Where is the NRA? First trans then unpardoned felons, the homeless, the unemployed poor people. The list goes on. Once in place, adding another group will not be questioned.
The NRA already said they cannot support this and stand against the sweeping ban of firearms.
Per their tweet:
The Second Amendment isn't up for debate.
The NRA supports the Second Amendment rights of all law abiding Americans to purchase, possess and use firearms.
NRA does not, and will not, support any policy proposals that implement sweeping gun bans that arbitrarily strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights without due process.
rare NRA W, imo.
I think this kills it. NRA is one of the sacred cows of the Republican party, they don't dare defy them.
You mean the NRA is a golden funnel that received money from Russia to funnel into republican politicians to buy their vote to promote Russian interests.
Protecting trans isn’t really a Russian thing.
They do this and the motives for violence only increase. How long until the next high profile assassination?
welp, that tears it. time to buy my first gun, while I still can. I'm not a big fan of guns but fuck if I'm going to let myself and my community be disarmed by the fascists. I'm not going quietly if they send us to the camps.
good luck with appeasing that extremely important anti 2A anti trans demographic. some say it's the biggest voting block in the world
Liberals have no one to blame but themselves for causing this situation.
In order to get any mental health issue insured, a person needs to get a mental health diagnosis.
Mental health providers almost always diagnose someone with a DSM illness just to get coverage. I have never heard of someone seeing a psychiatrist or therapist and not getting any diagnosis at all.
Liberals also allowed being transgender to be a DSM illness so that transgender people could get medical coverage, which is a dishonest way of conceptualizing gender identity. It is very hard to get insurance to cover anything without that diagnosis.
Liberals have then linked gun purchases to a lack of mental health diagnosis in a misguided effort to strip Americans of the right to bear arms instead of encouraging more people to own guns, encouraged gun training, and encouraged free mental health care that has extreme privacy and no links to any status within society.
As a result, people who want access to guns do not seek mental health care since mental health care is expensive and can limit rights within society. And now those who have naively used mental health services and been labeled in order to get costs covered can be marginalized even more.
This is a disaster that liberals created by attacking 2nd Amendment rights. Instead of giving transgender people mental health diagnoses when they identify as trans, society should be giving these trans people free health insurance, free therapy that is completely private and will never result in a loss of freedom, and extensive and comprehensive free weapons training.
People who support trans people and support inclusion need to stop allowing Republican conservative pieces of shit to claim sole support for the 2nd Amendment. This should be a wake up call to all Trans people that if you can legally get armed, do it now, and stop seeing this Mental Health/Liberal coalition suppressing 2nd Amendment rights as being in anyone's interest. The second amendment was never meant to be limited and radical activist liberals and conservatives have perverted the intent of the founding fathers with the result that good upstanding trans people may lose their right to carry guns.
I have never heard of someone seeing a psychiatrist or therapist and not getting any diagnosis at all.
I have twice. Two different therapists, after three sessions, told me I was well adjusted and experiencing normal emotional response to stressful events. One told me she saw no reason to schedule additional meetings. The other said I could keep visiting him but he couldn't bill insurance since there was no diagnosis.
That said, this story is unique among everyone I've ever spoken to about it.
In case anyone's in any doubt about whether there's any factual basis for this:
Mass shooters are not disproportionately transgender, contrary to claims
This CNN article states it well:
Such a move would represent a dramatic escalation of the Trump administration’s fight against the rights of transgender Americans.
That's it. This is just the fascists finding another way to victimize trans people, because they enjoy doing that and it keeps the morons' attention diverted from real problems.
And this bit is also good in the article (warning: disgusting quotes from Trump admin people):
The goal of the potential ban, according to the Justice official, is “to ensure that mentally ill individuals suffering from gender dysphoria are unable to obtain firearms while they are unstable and unwell.”
Because gender dysphoria is included in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, also called the DSM, it is diagnosed as a mental disorder. (The DSM is the handbook used by health care professionals as the authoritative guide in diagnosing mental disorders.)
But the gender incongruence – having a gender identity that’s not the one assigned at birth – isn’t what makes gender dysphoria a mental disorder. Having clinically significant dysphoria around the incongruence is what makes it a disorder.
That's surprisingly nuanced and well informed for an article on a mainstream news site.
Gun restrictions you say? 🤔 Tell me again how the left-wingers came for your guns.
It makes sense if you don't think about it. Which apparently the DOJ never did.
It's all about creating enemies the ignorant bigots can stand together against.
USA is a disgusting society.
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