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Maybe these states should leave the USA and become part of Canada. People in right-leaning states hate California, but the US would collapse without it.
They need to finally form the country of Cascadia
That only works for Washington and Oregon, if California is included a better name is the Pacific States of America or The Grand Republic of California.
Cascadia is named after the cascade mountains that cross all 3 states.
It is named after the mountains of course but it is a well-established concept of a bio region not just national borders. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(bioregion)
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Maybe these states should leave the USA and become part of Canada.
California alone has almost twice the GDP of the entire country of Canada, and nearly as many people. They wouldn't just become part of it, they'd make up most of it.
Besides, even as left-leaning states I would be concerned about that many Americans joining my country. Canada would lose its identity.
Not of we join them and become a separate nation. We can form our own west coast identity. We are already different from most of Canada and have very little representation in our own politics. The East Coast gets all the love and all the funding, the west is left to fend for itself mostly, and we do alright.
West coast gets 6 senators.
The 4 least populous states on the east coast are Maine, Rhode Island, Delaware, and New Hampshire. They get 8 senators with a fraction of the population.
These states have about 5 million people. California alone has nearly 40 million people
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I think we'll need a 1500-word essay from each state explaining why we should let them join. And no ChatGPT cheating. I also think Canada might be a little worried about California potentially getting the idea of "who's joining who" a bit backwards. We'll need them to at least sit a multiple choice test on that.
I wouldn't worry too much about California wanting to be in charge. That's not really our jam. We just want to be part of a constructive collective at this point. We've spent several decades in an abusive relationship at this point, with all the red states shitting on us whatever we do.
An essay explaining why each of the three states should going would be fun though. All three would have a lot to offer Canada.
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I live in one of those states, and increasingly seems it's either that or we just all move to BC
I love BC, but they have winter. I don’t miss winter.
I wouldn’t blame Oregonian and Washingtonians for fleeing north, though. As much as I love California, BC is my escape plan if things deteriorate further.
I don’t miss winter
This is one thing that keeps me in the Bay Area - great weather year-round. Summers aren't too hot, at least in the peninsula (although it did get pretty hot over the past week!), and winters aren't too cold.
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(ETA: not because I want to see America collapse, but because I like Canada and the West Coast would be a good ideological fit to most of Canada)
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Cascadia at last
Hey guys! BC is pretty cool, and we have lots of natural resources. Wanna form a team where we say fuck the East Coast and block access to crucial trade routes through the Pacific?! Maybe Alaska can come along?! They are pretty cool for the most part and boy do they have resources galore! Cascadia! Cascadia! Cascadia!
I'm here for Cascadia!
Great name. You can be in charge of tourism & naming things.
As long as I get to call it the ministry of doom.
Sure.. but I get to choose your title, Doom-namer
Edit: it is within your power to change the name of your title.
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Alaska is mostly red I think
That's just the stranglehold America has with oil extraction. Even conservative alaskans are pretty cool and into the environment and shit. That's their livelihood. It's not perfect, but we could sort it out pretty quick by kicking them to the curb as we incorporate into a new country.
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Sorry, but BC is not cool. If it wants to join the cool states club, then it needs to implement proper vaccine mandates. Currently, kids do not need to be vaccinated to attend BC public schools.
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Providing access to something the federal government won't is one thing. Doing so in spite of a federal ban is another. I wonder how this alliance would plan to deal with the latter, as it seems more and more likely.
If they tried to ban a vaccine, you just do what we do with marijuana. Marijuana is illegal federally, but without states enforcing marijuana laws, the feds simply don't have the resources to enforce federal marijuana laws. They can only enforce those laws with the cooperation of local and state law enforcement.
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The wheels of secession have begun to turn...
Good. Here's hoping that New York and other blue states on the east coast join in.
It's happening...
All three states should secede. I am biased, but I would be overjoyed to become a new Canadian province.
Maybe we could make a deal with the US. They take Alberta, and Canada gets the west coast.
We live in a sad time when a stunningly ignorant imbecile who believes he can can spot children with “mitochondrial challenges” while walking through an airport is in charge of public health, and this news post about vaccines can just as accurately be posted in a political sub.
Because Trump and his worshiping morons politicized a pandemic, 180,000 American’s needlessly died during the worst of COVID, but that’s not enough. Trump and his ilk want more people to die from diseases that are preventable and were previously nearly gone.
COVID, Polio, Whooping Cough, Measles, and even Small Pox are now welcome in Trump’s America.
We've had North vs. the South. Guess it's time for East vs. West.
I think Outsides vs Insides is more likely, or a West+East alliance vs the interior
This is much more accurate. Coasts vs the middle. Although you also have the likes of Colorado and New Mexico as honorary coastal states. And the likes of the Gulf Coast and Florida not being in that Coastal State group.
The US doesn't split neatly into 2. But it would split neatly into 5.
The sooner we get to Rich vs Everybody Else, the better off we'll all be.
States Rights
Good now if Newsom can explain why he vetoed bill keeping private equity out of our primary care that would be great https://www.kqed.org/news/12007157/newsom-vetoes-california-bill-against-private-equity-firms-health-care-takeovers
Oh, that’s easy to answer! It’s because he and his friends directly profit from this corrupt decision.
I too, wish to join this alliance.
Fuck yeah! 🤘
Surprise not to see Maine in that group. Maine has been pretty vocal in its dissent of the clown show at the federal level.
We can't expect moves like this to solve all problems, because MAGA will inflict as much pain as they can, if the scam artists can make a buck, but it's still a great thing to see. If Washington is worthless, then state and regional solutions are a solid move.
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