Same here and I have bought now many avn/adult games on gog and steam during sales. I just finished Fetish Locator week 2 and I don’t remember last time when I have laughed so much playing a video game. I would also recommend ”Love & Sex Second Base”, that game has tons of content and plenty of characters and some nice humor as well. And it’s from the same dev as ”Leap of Love”.
You know how romance novels are mostly popular with women for various reasons?
Porn games are that, but as an interactive picture book. Not a bad thing, I just think it's funny that most guys need to see them boobies instead of reading about them.
I believe the only reason adult games aren't as popular in Western countries as they are in Japan (and I think elsewhere in Asia?) is because there's a stereotype that they're low quality, which came about because of the ESRB (not sure about other countries' rating systems) basically making it so there was no money in it in a pre-digital download world.
there’s a stereotype that they’re low quality
Basically this. Why would I want to risk buying a trash perv game when theres stuff like Mass Effect or Baldur's Gate?
On the m/m side, the visual novel Coming Out on Top is a remarkably well-written, if saccharine, dating game about a college guy figuring things out. I don't usually like VNs but this one was worth playing. It's has a lot of gay sex in it, that is literally the entire point so, you know, be aware of that.
Nice. I don't typically go for M/M unless femboys are involved, but it's what my wife likes, and that's one of the ones I linked her when she asked me to research a few games for her to try.
Femboys can be hot too, though often authors seem to mix up femboys with trans women and that ends up being frustrating when I try a CHOYA game marked as m/m and it doesn't have any actual m/m in it.
"Some hentai games are very good." -Edward Snowden, referring to Lovers
Oh damn I thought this was some "Fuck bitches, smoke trees - Abraham Lincoln" shit, but it's a real quote. Nice.
I was disappointed by Fetish Locator; I wasn't into any of the included fetishes, so I rapidly got to the end, and missed all the content. Got an ending screen suggesting I should go back and try something, but like, no thanks! Still, at least it was free!
You do kind of have to buy into it. Most of the engagement of the story is locked behind the various options there, and it can really be surprisingly good beyond the adult content.
Maybe don't explore anything that's a full on ick, but I would second that, if there's something you're at least neutral on I'd recommend giving it another shot.
But then something awakens in you and you're into food now, look what you've done
Oh man! You've just giving me something that I think will really help stoke the fire in my relationship!
I've never really been into sexual roleplay and it's one of the things my partner previously expressed an interest in. We regularly game together either doing co-op or single player since we feel it's more engaging sometimes than zoning out on a movie., so the recommendations like "Leap of Love" sounds like the perfect gaming/drinking night that might kinda dip into the roleplaying aspect!
I really wish I claimed it when I saw it, just a few clicks and I'm kicking myself for it now. Are there any others you or anyone else would recommend that are more fantasy roleplay focused and might be good for two people?
I'm suddenly wondering if horny multiplayer games for couples is already a thing, or if it's an untapped market.
That’s a difficult one. Due to their target audience, a lot of them are more focused on storytelling (usually limited gameplay and more reading along in a choose your own adventure style) for a single player. What you’re describing is a bit of an untapped market, but give F95zone.to a look and you might find something. It’s a site dedicated to collating freely available adult games (with ways to support the authors linked). It’s where a lot of the games OP talks about found their audience.
I've been into nsfw games for a while, but I do genuinely enjoy a lot of them. Corruption of Champions 2 is a great game, with a lot of customization and great characters, though it is apparent that the game isn't finished yet.
Tales of Androgyny has some of the highest quality scenes I've encountered in an nsfw game. It's also pretty funny. More games should have a femboy protagonist, is all I'm saying.
He's the main love interest, not the protag, but have you seen Haunted by Femboy? A little on the silly side, but I enjoyed the demo.
I did see that but haven't gotten around to playing it
It's not out just yet, but it sounded like they're close based on the discussion board. Demo took me an hour or two to run through, worth the time if you like the subject matter. Quinn is adorbs.
Sounds promising, I'll check it out!
Oh man, CoC is a name I haven't heard in a loooong long time. I think I have a save file and the original flash version hanging around somewhere.
Subverse is really funny in its writing and the renders are high quality as expected of StudioFOW.
HuniePop's main game loop with the "connect"-style game loop on dates is actually pretty fun to play.
Some of these games have incredible writing. Personally, I'd recommend trying Eternum. It's not finished yet but there's already a ton of content and the writing is incredible. Another game by the same person called Once in a Lifetime is also really good but shorter.
Besides those two, I'd really recommend The Princess Trap. Also unfinished but still lots of content. This one is definitely a bit more niche and might not be for everyone but the drama and mystery in it is really incredible.
All of these games are pretty slow to get to the sex stuff to be honest (especially The Princess Trap). But every moment in-between makes it so worth your time.
I just finished what exists so far for The Princess Trap last night. I have to recommend holding off on it till it’s finished so you don’t end up in as much despair as me.
One other side point that came to mind after the main post.
We're so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is "wrong" or "sad". But honestly, I realized I played through 3+ games without doing any violence* and had a blast, and that was actually really refreshing.
*^okay,^ ^no^ ^non-consensual^ ^violence.^ ^I^ ^may^ ^have^ ^slapped^ ^Lyssa's^ ^dick^ ^around,^ ^but^ ^she^ ^requested^ ^it.^
We’re so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is “wrong” or “sad”.
Not just in games. In all media. You bring to mind a great quote from George R. R. Martin.
“I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it’s madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure; axes entering skulls, well, not so much.”
I've always felt that puritanical stigmatization of sex and sexuality have really fucked us up psychologically as a species.
Your post made me want to check these out. I only ever played one with a friend for kicks. It was a fun, cheap activity, easy to make a drinking game out of.
It's like how erotica can still be literature, but people dismiss it for the sexual focus. But I've read erotic stories that had me hooked, made interesting social commentary, had nuanced characters and were just a fantastic time.
people dismiss it for the sexual focus.
I stand by this: porn is a largely untapped medium for insanely stupid comedy.
I know we've all seen lemon stealing whores and whatnot, but like, we could have so much more than we do.
You're not alone, James Gunn (yes, that James Gunn) thought the same.
Ha, I had no idea these existed. If anyone would, he seems like the type to, though.
It's a sadly forgotten relic of the old internet.
My recommendations:
Most steam erotica games started out as poor quality visual novels or clone games with titties but the scene is really shaping up to something much more interesting!
I wish there were more games that had NSFW stuff, but not as the main focus. BG3, Cyberpunk, The Witcher, etc all have nudity, but the sex scenes are short, cropped, and half assed because they are embarrassed.
There needs to be quicktime events, better cinematics, and werewolves (BG3, Elder Scrolls, Witcher) during erotic scenes. Bring back A/O games. Many of these shouldn't be even remotely aimed at anyone below 18 anyways.
Hell, the last genuinely fun game with kink in it was Saints Row 3, and that was for comedic effect.
quicktime events
Damn I missed the cumshot quick time event. I'm not going to get an s rank for this chapter. Guess I gotta reload...
Not directly to your point but your overall experience just reminds me: we really lost something when the sexual liberation movement was largely erased. People so often dismiss it because we're conditioned to dismiss taking sex seriously (outside of a very narrow and specific context) but there's a lot we lose from that.
Tycho, of Penny Arcade, actually had some words on this subject around the time the PC version of Stellar Blade came out and people were up in arms about it. I'll quote it here because I think it's a good passage.
I used to say that I grew up Christian, but I think it's probably more accurate to say Evangelical, especially now that more people might know what I'm talking about. Sex was VERY naughty and we needed to be constantly on the lookout for incursions of this secular, demonic, but also somehow worryingly inherent force…? Breaking that pernicious notion down and enabling people to express themselves was the project I thought I'd more or less seen completed. Now it's come around some weird bend, with precisely the same energy as before, except now it's being done for the correct reasons. It can't possibly be this dumb. And yet!
It's incredibly fucking boring to have the tail end of the revolution you saw win shame the tools that gave them victory, dust off a bunch of regressive shit, and then have the pluck to feel righteous about it.
It sort of mirrors my own experience (minus the evangelical upbringing). I definitely recall a period of general sex-positivity that has now come around some strange turn whereby the very same voices are admonishing people for daring to enjoy sexy things.
It's very strange.
It has taken me nearly 30 years to undo that programming and it still affects me. The puriteens scare me.
It's because both sides were always divided on sex. The "beer, titties, and jesus" crowd and the anti porn feminists had been the lesser voices of their side for a while. But in the fallout of the sexual revolution, in the 70s and 80s second wave feminism developed a really anti sex stance, especially towards deviant types of sex. This was the feminist sex wars, and its the era of a lot of the more batshit bits. But it did begin with reasonable criticism. There was fighting back however, from lesbian feminist sadomasochism groups like Samois to owned porn cooperatives where radical ideas wete tried like having the entire crew be naked so the performers weren't the only ones exposed.
People like to blame third wave feminism for the swing back, and I disagree. The third wave was the movement born of the critiques of the second wave, and the renewed push for sexual liberation in the 90s ans 00s was quintessentially third wave. And it got far, it did a lot, and it also left us with a lot to criticize. Whether it's media criticism like Sarkeesian was harassed for daring to do, or it's the unfortunately common stories of women being pressured into sex acts they don't want with feminist language critiques had been mounting in the early 10s.
The theoretical fourth wave is often called twitter feminism, and i think it's best to consider that the first real thing it did that impacted anything was the metoo movement. I believe metoo was a good thing. It's next to the Arab spring as among the few things Twitter ever did that are good. But it and the late third wave criticisms gave room for the sex negative side to return to prominence. That's where we are now, but I dont think it will last.
Because I think we need to remember that while there is an internal back and forth, there's also the realpolitik of the fact that you can pull horny people if nobody else does. A chunk of gamergate is straight up that. Shining feminist media critiques through the worst possible lens to horny boys and men. Anyways the right has dropped their horny-prude coalition recently and is all in on prude, which is coinciding with chunks of the left getting tired of the dominant position of our prudes.
Anyways free the nipple, and what 20 consenting adults do behind closed doors is their right to do.
Since you seem knowledgeable, maybe I'll bug you about something I've wondered about?
Did you notice a significant (huge by my measure) increase in attempts at polyamory for a period of time? As in, that trend seemed to have almost a start and an end, and a real big swell in the middle. And if so, any comments on how that fits into your timeline overview above? Some of your thoughts sound like they may point to this but I certainly don't want to put words in your mouth.
Anecdotally, it seems to me like I watched a huge chunk of my (significantly) younger sister's generation get themselves into plural relationships, then realize after a year or two of various attempts (often including some serious abuse) that actually they didn't like that idea at all.
And don't get me wrong, I absolutely encourage people to try what they are curious about, it's a tragedy to spend a life never exploring what one might like. But that phenomena with polyamory / plural relationships in particular stuck out to me, largely because many of the people I saw try it had never previously indicated even remote interest in similar, some behaved fairly jealously toward their partners actually. It felt like a strange societal motivation, some kind of soft cultural pressure among peers, to go for it. And I personally never witnessed a positive outcome, either (which is not me saying that no one should live that way if they enjoy it, or that no one can find it genuinely fulfilling, healthy, and preferable). And for those with clear gender lines in the plural relationships, it was always polygynous - never polyandrous (please let me know if those terms are offensive). Felt like weaponized sexual liberation, frankly, by horny dudes, but that's me making some possibly unfair leaps and introducing my own bias into the interpretation.
I guess more than anything else I was just struck by what felt like a wave in popularity, followed by an accompanying wave of "oh, nah fuck that actually, forever". Was interesting to watch. Any thoughts?
(Disclaimer: this can be a thorny topic, anyone should feel free to correct anything I've misrepresented, misunderstood, or just been unkind about, I'm not a jerk on purpose usually).
Kinda, I'm actually polyamorous myself and most of my social circle still is. But I've heard of what you described. In my circles it's been a lot more women lead and queer though. I think a lot of people jumped in without breaking their mental monogamy as well. Polyamory can be difficult, and for a lot of people especially those who jump in without thinking or who began their relationship monogamous it can be a spectacular shitshow, much like many relationships where incompatible desires are present or where people go in without knowing how to do it well.
I once had a relationship that I think a lot of my ex's friends probably see as exactly like you described. We began monogamous, it was my first relationship and it was in the mid 10s, and within a year I realized monogamy wasn't for me. So we opened up, then did full poly, got engaged, and she realized she couldn't do poly. She pressured me into monogamy (I had been willing to call it quits) and I hated it. It was an ugly breakup that she likely blames on me pressuring her into polyamory. Funny enough a few months after the breakup when I wasn't looking for anything serious I met someone else who'd recently had a breakup over wanting to stay poly, and we're happily married with a clear mutual understanding that neither of us is open to closing the relationship.
Well thanks for the interesting perspective and I'm very glad to hear it wasn't so one-sided everywhere, and that you've seen a lot more positives! Everything you said about causes of strife makes perfect sense to me and I would imagine those feature heavily for folks who try it out due to simple curiosity or pressure from a partner.
I would imagine, too, that sexual trends exhibit regionality and that they diffuse across regions over time and at uneven rates, much like any other cultural trend. Though of course a lot of cultural diffusion has gotten effectively instant thanks to tech - I remember "back in the day" you could travel from a (US) coast to the Midwest and find everyone basically 10-20 years behind cultural trends, from slang to hairstyles, to dress.
I wonder if relationships and dating and such, being a much slower process in general than changing styles of dress or speech, still have some of that interesting old-school slower diffusion, or more regional pockets anyway.
Anyway, enough baseless speculation from me - cheers and have a good one!
(Edit: I hope it didn't sound like I'm calling your chosen romantic style itself a trend - I would never, when I call polyamory a "trend" I am referring exclusively to folks who did behave exactly as if it were any other fad that came and went, just with way heavier consequences)
I never paid attention to adult games until all this controversy happened. The Streisand effect must be doing its thing on people.
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