St Lucia seemed generally excited for their tourism. There's a million all inclusive resorts, but youre encouraged to walk the island, visit the locals, shop anywhere. Every single person i met was pleasant and generally excited to speak with me. I never felt unsafe like they warn about at other tourism destinations

Honestly tho, it felt weird.

Comments in this thread are weirdly one sided. I get the airbnb shit, mass tourism, and all that, but to me it's more a symptom of late stage capitalism.

At which point do you stop becoming a tourist yourself? Has nobody ever been to another city or region? Are you not sometimes a tourist in your own city, region, or country? You always stay home and never go anywhere?

As a Montrealer, am I a nasty tourist for going to Québec City? Should I stick to my own city? Am I a bad tourist for going to another province? Is Vancouver too far or too rich? Is Toronto too far too? Would I be a bad tourist for going to visit and spend a night in Toronto, coming from Montreal? Am I a nasty tourist for going camping in Ontario? Should I stick only to local campings?

Is it only bad when we go to what... 10 km away from our home? 100? 1000? Where is the line? When we need hosting?

I don't really understand the logic of "fuck tourists", unless they just want everyone to stay home and never go anywhere.

Yes. 100%. Every time I see a tourist in SF blocking traffic to take a picture from the top of a hill in the middle of the street, I want them to get hit by a bus.

Looking at you, Kyoto

Tourists frequently treat the laws as though they are suggestions instead of the law because they'll be leaving and won't deal with whatever they did.

They drove my mother off the road and the tourists walking nearby just watched and did nothing even though she needed medical help as she was on a bike. Luckily she was fine.

Others would argue with me, a kid, about where shit was.

"How do you get off the island"

"One way on and off, it's the way you entered"

"No, there's a way off here"

"There is not"

"Fuck you" they'd say, to a kid, before driving off and finding no no. Kid is right.

Whenever we traveled we were slammed into us to be polite, follow all local laws, be kind, and I just. It feels like a lot of the shoobies just were raised in a fucking barn.

Traditional fishing village, no fishermen can afford to live there anymore because of tourists, air B&Bs and holiday homes pushing the price of houses up.

Yeah, I'm sure the average person living in a tourist town gets tons of dividends from the extra taxes and capital earnings. It "trickles down" or whatever the kids are calling it these days.

It's not that we live in a direct democracy where the people have a say in the decision to turn the city into a tourism place. More often than not people are born there or moved there long before tourism was so big

Lived in Banff for 18 years. Some days those tourists are just the fucking worst; feeding animals, littering, having fires anywhere they want. I got real possessive of my home. But the many are decent, outdoor lovers who don’t suck.

Daily experience in Hawaii. Litterally had a neighbor whose entire ability to survive is based on his wife's business doing wedding photography complaining about "immigrants and tourists"..

Like bruh. You are a kept man and a poorly performing house husband. Maybe just have the grace to accept things as they are?

This is why the Airbnb ban comes up super controversial too. From an unanalyzed/ outside perspective, the narrative "we need homes for locals" makes sense. Then you find out the entire campaign was pushed entirely by the hotel industry lobby in Waikiki (the counsel member who pushed the ban her husband was litterally on the payroll of the hotel lobby). Then the ban went into effect and it killed thousands of small, pop up businesses that had been cleaning, landscaping, maintaining the rentals. And it didn't do one iota of good in terms of reducing or stabilizing rent; if anything, it made things worse. The airbnb' almost all went down one of three tracks: either the owner kept it going illegally (the highest end with wealthiest owners), the owner stopped renting and has left it vacant, or the owner remodeled or sold to a flipper, in which case the house resold for a price quite litterally no locals can afford in rent.

What people don't want to hear about Airbnb bans is that that they significantly hit the non-corporate, local economies far, far harder. It moved tourists out of local neighborhoods and back into Waikiki, meaning that the dollars those tourists might spend on breakfast, grocery, something on the side of the road in some community outside of Honolulu. It further consolidated power into the very already very small number of hands who own all the hotels in Waikiki, while it did basically nothing to stabilize rents.

In my experience economies based around tourism have much greater inequality, with a few wealthy landowners/business owners raking it in, scumbag tourists throwing their weight around and any non wealthy locals forced into low wage service work and treated like shit in a high cost of living environment. Fuck tourism and fuck tourists.

I hate my customers too. I get it.

Can't say I blame them. Tourists can be obnoxious, especially in swarms.

It's not "a" tourist, it's "a milion" tourists they don't tolerate

I grew up in San Diego. I can't afford to live there anymore and had to move halfway across the country because of those tourists. Comic Con would be the worst. Just fucking shambles. And then all the people who feel like Comic Con is their home leave their "home" covered in fucking garbage and piss soaked streets. And then some of those tourists started to enjoy San Diego so much, that they all started moving there with their trust funds and high paying remote jobs. By the time I left 5 years ago, I'd meet people and they'd almost all ask, "Where are you from?" to which I'd reply, "From here" to which they'd reply, "No, but where are you from originally?".

Yep. Fucking tourists.

While not a city, tourists have ruined the town I work in... It used to be a working town and the surrounding area was where people actually lived. Then the area got popular for rich people to come walk around in the summer... They bought all the housing for their vacation homes/air b&b and the bought up local businesses, turning them into seasonal shops...

Locusts...

OP after being kicked out of his home so that the landlord can rent it in airbnb: “well at least the economy is booming!”

I mean they often only want the place they live to be affordable and focused on catering to its residents and not people coming a week or so every year being the focus of the local amenities and that's a fair opinion to have.

Whose*

Florida in a nutshell.

I’m like this as an american who lives in another country. I get that face when i hear english being spoken because the tourists are usually jackasses.

Ah, Ive seen you've been to Paris.

Most tourists are pieces of shit. Locals barely tolerate that shit because of money but you can't ask more.

It would be fine if they would simply drive the speed limit instead of 10 under, and stopped littering.

I don’t understand why those two things simply aren’t a given.