As an adult, I’ve also kicked tipping culture to the curb.
I’m sorry, you want 10% tip to pour me a coffee and put a piece of coffee cake on a plate?
As your boss that drives a high end luxury car to pay you more.
As an adult, I’ve also kicked tipping culture to the curb.
I’m sorry, you want 10% tip to pour me a coffee and put a piece of coffee cake on a plate?
As your boss that drives a high end luxury car to pay you more.
IMO if a company can’t afford to pay a decent wage they need to rework their business plan or get lost.
Apparently not, the way that we see it online, is to shame their customers and calling them cheap pieces of shit.
I like that the image shows 5/10/15%. I haven't seen THAT since the early 2000s. More commonly, starting 15/20/25 or 15/18/20, these days.
Absolutely infuriating.
If you aren't talking about why tipping is a thing. Just shut up about this. Be an asshole or don't. But just shut the fuck up.
There's no reason to be mad at people who are underpaid. Be mad about why and how they're underpaid. Be mad at who is underpaying them.
No... it's the servers themselves who keep perpetuating this shit and supporting it in online discussions
ALL service workers are underpaid, but restaurant servers are making out like bandits.
Tipping sucks for the obvious systemic reasons. But also, the entitlement of service staff is problematic.
Absolutely, it's fair to say that min wage is low. But it's not fair to only give extra money to restaurant service. The restaurant staff are not entitled to a higher wage than other min wage workers. Especially since 2022 when the separate server wage was abolished.
These types of comments don't say what should happen when a certain policy objective has been achieved. That is, of course, stop tipping. Instead there is a desire to get min wage + extra tips.
I’ve been in Europe for a week each month this summer for work. I usually just eat in via groceries, but if it’s a café for a coffee in the morning or a dinner out with colleagues the prices are reasonable and tipping is a few €/£ for the entire group, if at all. No card tap payment is handed back to you with pre-calculated tip buttons. It just makes coming back to the US and paying relatively the same price for a meal and then being asked for 20% on top of that seem like bullshit.
Cause nobody has any money, and people want to make decisions about paying for stuff based on how much stuff actually costs.
Like if you went to a bookstore, and the book was $10, and you go to pay, and the store was like "akshually, if you don't pay $12, the clerk doesn't get paid, and the clerk is OK with that because maybe you'll pay $13.
If the book costs $12, then maybe I'm still interested in that price. But if I expect to pay $10, and then the amount is more, then I'm feeling differently about that delta.
This is kinda my complaint with not adding the tax to the sticker price.
And you're not even allowed to know what the tax is beforehand.
I've tapped out of tipping culture for multiple reasons.
Edit: I should add that there are times when I do tip, and it's when good service beyond base expectations was provided. Like if I asked for recommendations and it wasn't just the most expensive item on the menu, they were pretty prompt about taking my order, and/or it's busy / during holiday season
Tipping is supposed to be rewarding for extra service.
Let me stop you right there. Tipping is supposed to be helping business owners to underpay their employees. It is nice to think that it should be for "extra service" (wtf is that even supposed to mean?) but all you do with tipping is get that servers salary up to an amount that helps them survive another day, financially. Which is what the job should do on its own.
Yeah, the older Canadians too. It's ridiculous that the owners make their workers depend on how much business they can bring in for their wages. Do it like the rest of the world and pay them a decent wage. The only way to change this is for everyone to stop tipping.
Fuck service fees, fuck tips, fuck all that shit. Pay people what their worth.
Only time I'll tip for no reason is my local pho place, they remember me and know my order so I just throw an extra $2 at em every time. But I shouldn't be obligated to do so as a service fee like that one buddy said.
Good. The only way this is going to change is if customers stop coming to places that demand a tip when an employee looks up from their phone.
Leaving a tip for decent table service is a given, but the absurdity of being asked to tip if someone literally does nothing more than presses a button on a register is a great way to lose customers permanently. We used to be regulars of a couple of small fast food places that started with this bullshit. Haven't been back since.
Leaving a tip for decent table service outside of North America isn't a given though. On a global scale this is a regional cultural peculiarity.
Oh cool, this means people are no longer patronizing establishments that have tip prompts as a way to show that they don't support companies that reply on them to pay staff, right?
Right?
That was certainly my solution. If I end up in one I tip but I just avoid tipping places generally now.
In most of the world, you pay what you see on the shelf.
In Japan, we don't have tip, but we do have "table charge" which is kind of bullshit. At least the service is generally 100x better than in Canada.
Nothing bullshit about a table charge. Happens in italy as well (coperto).
it's upfront, and it's a small, reasonable charge. It'a not some bullshit, guilt-trip guessing game at the end of the night when they hand you the credit card machine
It's the fact that they AREN'T upfront about it a lot of times that bothers me. Not the table charge itself. I wasn't clear about that, sorry.
I have never had a restaurant ask for a table charge in Japan. I've stayed in Tokyo and Osaka a fair bit (months) and have visited Nagano, Nagoya, Kyoto and some smaller cities in between.
Not sure why I got downvoted, but I've been living here for 15 years and it definitely exists. Most of the time, you don't even notice it because they just charge you with out telling. You might see it in the corner of the menu. Google テーブルチャージ or お通し代.
No one downvoted you (or at least I didn't). I'll keep an eye out next time, but I usually pay cash and it's exactly what the meal costs.
Ooh, can we do another collective “fuck this thing in particular” like we did and continue to do with all things US? We need to get good at this! Let’s just all stop tipping entirely because that tip jar might as well be labelled “donate to this company’s rich asshole owners to help them cover payroll this week”. It literally has nothing to do with service anymore, and its ubiquity is their bald face admission of that.
The absolute worst is self checkouts that have the audacity to ask for a tip. What fucking service?
Absolutely, as well as anybody that asks me for a tip BEFORE providing me with my food/service.
I don't do tips and I don't do points. I just want to pay a dollar for something worth a dollar. I think those days are long gone though.
It literally takes one to three finger presses on a machine to opt out of tipping when you don't feel like it's appropriate. I don't understand why this has to be discussed over and over. It's the lowest hanging fruit social norms change ever.
The thing is, touristy places like Vancouver will only ever see these go up because tourists are generally biased to believe that tipping 20% is normal. Get used to choosing "Other %", it's that easy.
I refuse to tip in any situation where someone just makes something and hands it to me. Bare minimum, at least take my order at the table, and deliver it to my table. That gets you 10%.
It’s an American thing, I was horrified when a newcomer said they thought it was expected here.
I stopped tipping a while ago. For most places anyway.
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