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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 160 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Armstrong was shocked at the thought. “I went rogue,” he said, and posted a mandate in the company’s main engineering Slack channel. “I said, ‘AI is important. We need you to all learn it and at least onboard. You don’t have to use it every day yet until we do some training, but at least onboard by the end of the week. And if not, I’m hosting a meeting on Saturday with everybody who hasn’t done it and I’d like to meet with you to understand why.’”

At the meeting, some people had reasonable explanations for not getting their AI assistant accounts set up during the week, like being on vacation, Armstrong said.

“I jumped on this call on Saturday and there were a couple people that had not done it. Some of them had a good reason, because they were just getting back from some trip or something, and some of them didn’t [have a good reason]. And they got fired.”

Armstrong admits that it was a “heavy-handed approach” and there were people in the company who “didn’t like it.”

He gave them one week? So he has poor planning skills, he's impatient with terrible impulse control, he's unable to motivate people (probably because they know he's an intolerable ass) and his big idea is "do what everyone else is doing, even if you don't know why." Sounds like CEO is the only job he can do. What a fool.

Meetings on a Saturday? Intolerable ass is correct.

[-] natecox@programming.dev 112 points 5 days ago

It’s hard to find programmers these days who aren’t using AI coding assistants in some capacity, especially to write the repetitive, mundane bits.

God damn it, stop it with this. No it isn’t. Most of the devs that I personally know won’t touch LLMs with a ten foot pole.

[-] hypna@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago

I'd be interested in some proper studies, but most of the devs I know, myself included, use it for reference at least. Haven't met a vibe coder yet though.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

I tried using it as reference, but it lied more than the datasheets.

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[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 days ago

In my left hand, I have a manfile, written by the very same people who wrote the tool or language that I'm trying to use. It is concise, contains true information, and won't change if I look up the same thing again later.

In my right hand, I have a pathological liar, who also kinda sorta read the manfile and then smooshed it together with 20 other manuals.

I wonder which of these options is a more reliable reference tool for me? Hmm. It's difficult to tell.

[-] sturger@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

I've started using an AI driver for my car. And by "AI" I mean I use a bungee cord on the steering wheel to keep it straight. Straight is the correct answer 40% of the time, so it works out.
Oh, and by "my car", I mean the people that work for me. I insist that they use my bungee-cord idea to steer their cars if they want to work for me. There may be a few losses, but that's ok. I can always fire the ones that die and hire more.
I'm a genius.

[-] 8uurg@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

It is concise, contains true information,

In my experience that is not necessarily guaranteed, documentation is sometimes not updated and the information may be outdated or may even be missing entirely.

Documentation is much more reliable, yes, but not necessarily always true or complete, sadly enough.

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Sure, and I've also had my share of cursing at poor documentation.

If that's the case then your AI is also going to struggle to give you usable information though.

[-] 8uurg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

My point was solely that human written documentation is far from as reliable as your comment insinuated it to be. Compared to an LLM it is reliable, but it is far from perfect.

In my view, an (my?) AI is going to struggle, whether or not the documentation is in order: those models already get confused by different versions of the same library having different interfaces and functions.

[-] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

I mostly vibecode throw away shit. I am not shipping this python script that is resizing and then embedding images into this .xls. Or the simple static html/css generator because hosting a full blown app is overkill when I just wanna show something to some non-tech colleagues. Stuff that would take half, to an hour to throw together now takes like 5-10min. I wouldn't trust it to do anything more complicated because it fucks up all the time, leans too heavily on its training data instead of referencing docs and it is way too confident about shit when it is wrong. Pro-tip, berate the slop machines. They perform better and stop being so god damn sycophantic when you do. I am a divine being of consciousness and considerable skill, and it is a slop machine: useful, but beneath me.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

"...leans too heavily on its training data..." No, it IS its training data. Full srop. It doesn't know the documentation as a separate entity. It doesn't reason what so ever for where to get its data from. It just shits out the closest approximation of an "acceptable" answer from the training data. Period. It doesn't think. It doesn't reason. It doesn't decide where to pull an answer from. It just shits it out verbatim.

I swear... so many people anthropomorphise "AI" it's ridiculous. It does not think and it does not reason. Ever. Thinking it does is projecting human attributes on to it, which is anthropomorphizing it, which is lying to yourself about it.

[-] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Ackually 🤓, gemini pro and other similar models are basically a loop over some metaprompts with tool usage including using search. It will actually reference/cite documentation if given explicit instructions. You're right, the anthropomorphization is troubling. That said, the simulacrum presented DOES follow directions and it's (meaning the complete system of LLM + looped prompts) behavior can be interpreted as having some kind of agency. We're on the same side, but you're sorely misinformed, friend.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I'm not misinformed. You're still trying to call a groomed LLM something that reasons when it literally is not doing that in any meaningful capacity.

[-] mos@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

That last line is hillarious. I'll remember that. but also the robots will remember this post when they take over.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 days ago

Isn’t modular code used to handle repetitive mundane bits?

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Yes. People seem to be writing bad poorly abstracted code these days. Leading them to assume there’s a lot of manual mundane tasks

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Nah, it depends massively on what libraries/framework/language are being used. Some are pretty bad about how much boilerplate has to be written. Like Java on an old declarative version of Spring or Java EE without generative helper libraries like Lombok can be a paaaiiin just in overhead, especially if insisting on having interfaces for most things.

[-] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And most devs I know use it everyday, so... 🤷

Especially for repetitive mundane code, like they said. It's much faster to check code for correctness than it is to write it in the first place.

"I need to restructure this directory tree. If a file has "index" in the name, then it has to go in a parallel directory structure starting at "/home/repos/project/indexes/" and remove the word "index" from the name. Use the same child folders as the original."

There, I just finished a custom Python script to accomplish that. Can I do it myself? Yes. Can I do it in 30 seconds? No. Why would I waste my time writing such a mundane script for a one-off thing? And it can do so much more.

[-] Senal@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago

It's much faster to check code for correctness than it is to write it in the first place.

In certain circumstances sure, but at any level of complexity, not so much.

At some point it becomes less about code correctness and more about logical correctness, which requires contextual domain understanding.

Want to churn out directory changing python scripts, go nuts.

Want to add business logic that isn't a single discrete change to an existing system, less likely.

For small things is works OK, it's less useful the more complex the task.

[-] natecox@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

It’s funny to me that this is even up for discussion. It’s been a truism for as long as I can remember that reading code is much, much more difficult than writing it.

[-] Senal@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

Perhaps for the the style or complexity of the code you (and i) are seeing on a regular basis this is true.

I find, for low logical complexity code, it's less about the difficulty of reading it and more about the speed.

I can read significantly quicker than i can type and if the code isn't something i need additional time to reason about then spotting issue with existing code can be quicker than me writing the same code out.

Boilerplate code is a good example of this.

Though, as i said, I've found the point at which that loses it's reliable usefulness is relatively low in the complexity scale.

The specific issue i have with people pushing LLM's as a panacea for boilerplate code is that it's not declarative and is prone to reasonable looking hallucinations , given enough space.

Even boilerplate in large enough amount can be subject to eccentricities of LLM imagination.

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[-] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 67 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I’m guessing it’s because he’s a prick. That’s it, isn’t it?

[-] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago

CEO
Prick

Yup

[-] irotsoma 13 points 5 days ago

Good excuse to lay off without paying unemployment while power-tripping. That's all these kinds of things usually are about.

LLMs for code completion cause me more button presses and clicks to ignore them over standard code completion and the chat doesn't help people who think logically and conceptually only ones who think verbally. So, it's useless to me.

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[-] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

The dude looks like he's unironically roleplaying his life as Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen.

[-] Amberskin@europe.pub 22 points 4 days ago

Fuck all cryptobros. With a saguaro.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

a chollo cactus.

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[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 33 points 5 days ago

The guy is such an asshole. I’d never apply to work there. He had a policy where he personally needs to approve of every single person hired there. He’s a micromanager, Elon wannabe douche. I have some crypto with Coinbase, but I will never add more to it. Eventually, some day I’ll pull it out. The problem is other companies in crypto are also run by raging assholes — Kraken for instance was founded by a total dickhead.

[-] rafoix@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago

Crypto is full of scammers that are not allowed to trade securities because of criminal activities.

[-] arsCynic@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago

All crypto"currencies" are greed-inducing society-eroding pyramid schemes.

Get out this Crypto Cult Science.


✍︎ arscyni.cc: modernity ∝ nature.

[-] HereIAm@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Do they give you some sort of return or interest for having cryptosystem with them? If not why not just store it in your own wallet. I thought the whole point of crypto currencies was to decentralise it.

[-] sfjvvssss@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

If you have crypto on coinbase, does that mean you don't have the private key?

[-] enbipanic 3 points 4 days ago

What's with the kraken dude?

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The guy was under FBI investigation until the Trump admin dropped the case, but also…

From Wikipedia:

In 2019, Powell suggested that parenting was a distraction to being productive and critiqued the economic viability of parental leaves; he went on to question whether choosing to not abide by relevant governmental regulations was a risk worth taking.[40] In June 2022, Powell urged employees in a work meeting to reject the usage of preferred gender pronouns; he then opened a Slack channel to debate whether people should be allowed to choose their gender but not their race or ethnicity.[7] The next day, Kraken released a "culture document" which outlined the libertarian values that it asserted were to be obeyed at work.[7] Among other things, employees were prohibited from labelling others' comments as "toxic, hateful, racist", etc., and particular emphasis was assigned on how "offensiveness" was not forbidden.[7] Powell and his fellow executives encouraged employees who disagreed with the policy to quit, and offered four months' severance for those who opted to do so.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraken_(cryptocurrency_exchange)

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[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 15 points 4 days ago

Coinbase has always been the laughingstock. They're not a real exchange.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Because he's the CEO of Coinbase, what else would you expect someone with that job title to do?

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago

Reminder that Coinbase is the company securing the assets of the majority of government sanctioned/registered crypto ETFs. If you are invested or thinking about being invested in cryptocurrency, but have doubts about the ability of Coinbase to do things in a secure, competent way, consider self custody instead of trusting them.

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 20 points 5 days ago

I'm guessing he only wants yes-men

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[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 13 points 5 days ago

Fucking wish . com lex luther

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[-] blicky_blank@lemmy.today 8 points 5 days ago

That's some A tier micro management

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

Let's all drop everything. There's something shiny and new hereabouts.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago

AI and crypto working together sounds redundant.

[-] Marshezezz 8 points 5 days ago

Is it to lash out at others for his alopecia?

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 days ago

this guy bald for the same reason caillou is

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[-] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 7 points 5 days ago

Why is it so often a bald guy.

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