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The Force Awakens and its follow-ups had so few memorable characters, it’s a wonder Disney – and Oscar Isaac – are still talking about potential spin-offs

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[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

The sequel trilogy was a shameless cash-grab attempt by Disney. It was unimaginative, unoriginal and boring.

[-] figjam@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

The first one had some good plot hooks to further and grow the franchise beyond what it was. These were immediately dumped by Disney corporate and replaced with slop.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

TFA felt like a cheap knockoff of the original a New Hope.

[-] Borger 2 points 1 day ago

I remember enjoying The Force Awakens in the cinema, but I probably enjoyed it about as much as I would have enjoyed rewatching A New Hope, because frankly they're the same movie.

I started watching the 2nd one in the new trilogy (don't even remember the name) and got bored. Never watched the 3rd one.

And then there was Rogue One, which I also watched in cinema. I did enjoy it, but it was also an absolute nothing burger of a movie with 0 lasting impact or characters worth remembering.

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

I found Rogue One a satisfying conclusion to the independent Andor story.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

I'm not one to overthink movies, I really enjoy just watching them do their thing without thinking about it, But there were no twists everything felt so linear and so repeated.

I even liked solo because it was at least different.

[-] SilverFlame@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I thought Solo was a lot of fun. It was great to watch a Star Wars film that didn't have galactic stakes. It felt more focused.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I personally liked Solo more than Rogue One

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

disney ruins everything it touches

[-] SCmSTR 11 points 2 days ago

No you're thinking of capitalism.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Hey I can hate the players and the game! ;-)

[-] fake_meows@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

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[-] bless@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago

Your memory was wiped because you only bought tickets to see the movie, not remember it

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

New dystopia just dropped.

[-] ALLHAILHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 days ago

It was straight up nostalgia porn. Nothing but call backs and a cloned bland story line. Absolutely forgettable. Rogue One and Andor are the only good things Disney did with Star Wars (live action wise).

[-] Ilandar@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago

Very strange to criticise the sequel trilogy for being "nostalgia porn", whilst simultaneously praising Rogue One. Not only was that film completely pointless but it was also filled with deepfakes of dead actors and endless fan service.

[-] ALLHAILHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago

Because rogue one tied into the original movies directly and coherently. The new trilogy felt really forced. Andor was born of Rogue One as well so it definitely felt like a better overall storyline.

[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Nope. Your memory is fine. There were only two and a half good Star Wars movies of the original nine; A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi right up until the Ewoks arrive.

Beyond that there was some good stuff, like Andor and Rogue one.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It was ok. Certainly better than A Phantom Menace. But I think, aside from a cool sword fight scene and a giant fish The Phantom Menace was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

The ewoks weren't bad especially given the time period.

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Kids loved the ewoks ... I will admit I liked them when I was young. However, they were kind of stupid and pointless. He should have just make them cookies like he planned.

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[-] Pechente@feddit.org 130 points 3 days ago

Seems like a lot of the entertainment Disney makes tries to be extremely average. Not edgy, not offending anyone. The end result is almost like AI slop before AI slop existed. Entertainment so mediocre that it doesn’t make you feel anything.

[-] Zorsith 46 points 3 days ago

Just enough to maintain their grip on the IP and make some merch sales

[-] Fermion@mander.xyz 37 points 3 days ago

Disney movies are theatrical length ads for merch and experiences. The animation style for BB-8 was 100% prioritizing driving merch sales.

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[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Movie by committee.

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[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 56 points 3 days ago

Rogue One was the only decent star wars story in recent history. It was within the star wars universe but wasn't a total rehash of the same Jedi story.

If they had done the Solo twins storyline with the Jedi academy they would have had all the YA books to pull ideas from that was original stories instead of the modernized remake.

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[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One day I sat down to watch the movie after force awakens (can't even remember the name). About 30 minutes in I had an extreme sense of deja vu. Come to find out I watched that movie in theaters and had completely forgot it. After that I watch ed rise of the Skywalker and definitely will remember that as being the worst stars wars anything I have ever seen... christmas special and babu frik excluded!. I felt bad for the actors on that one.

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[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 days ago

Between Lost, Star Trek, and Star Wars, I hate J.J. Abrams. The only reason he even has a career is because he sucked up to Spielberg.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I legit liked BB-8, Maz Kanata and Babu Frik. Could do with more of them.

As for the films:

Force Awakens - Mostly harmless. Gets a lot of hate for "just being Star Wars again" and that's valid. But they needed to prove they could do Star Wars without Lucas, and they did.

Last Jedi - Looks great, absolutely shits the bed. Johnson needed an average 8 year old to come in and point out all the plot holes. "Here's this tracker, you can use it to find us anywhere in the universe." (Same scene, no cuts, First Order comes out of hyperspace) "HOW DID THEY FIND US! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!"

Rise of Skywalker - I feel bad for this one and generally give it a pass. Last Jedi painted them into a corner by killing Snoke, killing Phasma, killing Luke, reducing the size of the Resistance to something that could fit in the Falcon... and then... THEN Carrie Fisher up and dies. I don't know what else they could have done. It was supposed to be Leia's movie. 😟

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago

Rise of Skywalker is the worst, because they couldn't decide between ignoring Last Jedi or retconning it.

Half of the movie is Abrams making a sequel to a middle movie that was never made, and the other half is trying to please upset fans who hated Rose and the idea that Rey could be special without being related to some kind of franchise royalty.

In the end, they had an aimless film with no story direction that flipped between a confusing mess and some kinda fanfic hate letter to Johnson.

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

RoS was so bad it makes any negatives of episode 8 pale in comparison.

Oh no, Chewy is dead! Wait he’s alive.

Can’t access the sith language [for some reason].

The dagger is a map! But only if you stand in this one exact spot and even then it just kinda points in a general direction to a place on a crashed ship.

Just nonsense.

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[-] xyzzy@lemmy.today 18 points 2 days ago

I was the world's biggest Star Wars fan in the '90s. I read all the books and comics, I had the little spaceships. When I left the theater in 1997 after seeing the Star Wars Special Edition, it was like a punch to the gut. So many stupid changes. I hoped for more with Empire, but Luke screamed after his noble sacrifice, which really irritated me. By the time of Jedi, I was already expecting the worst, and boy, they delivered with that awful musical number.

But somewhere deep in my heart I held out hope for Phantom Menace. And that finally killed Star Wars for me. Later I sold or gave away all that stuff. I only kept the original Timothy Zahn trilogy, because I first read those before I even saw the movies.

So by the time we got the sequels I had zero investment. Force Awakens was... fine. A rehash with no original ideas. But I get it. Remind people why they like Star Wars.

I liked Last Jedi a little more than most, despite the clear trilogy pacing screw ups and go-nowhere B plots (casino planet, etc.). I actually really liked Luke's arc. It was something new and unexpected, but many Star Wars fans want the same warmed-over meal instead of something more dynamic. Same goes for the "anyone can be Force sensitive." Same goes for "the sacred texts!" And Luke demonstrated total mastery over the Force, holding to his Jedi beliefs, before he died. It was bold, not the typical corporate safe plots with all sharp edges filed down. It could have led in an interesting direction. Killing Snoke was surprising, but I had to imagine there was a plan there. This was a billion dollar franchise. Surely someone had a conversation before they approved the script.

Well, no. They didn't. I had assumed it was setting up Kylo Ren as the primary antagonist for the next movie. But Rise of Skywalker ended up being one of the worst movies I've seen in my life. Not worst Star Wars movie: worst movie period.

How do you make a good Star Wars 9 after 8? Well you sure don't bring Palpatine back in the 9th inning with zero foreshadowing. And you definitely don't materialize 10 million Star Destroyers out of thin air.

The original trilogy was great. The prequels were flawed and silly, but at least there was a singular flawed and silly creative force behind them trying to say something. The sequels on the whole just sucked.

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