I don't want to be the contrarian but:
Two U.S. officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said it cost about $530 per Guard member, per day to be deployed.
How?! How could sending people that are already on the payroll to a different city cost this much? And you are really going to push such a claim, with the source being "some guys said so" and pretend to be a news organization we should take seriously?
First, I'm going to heavily qualify this statement. Like, a lot. I have never served in any military capacity and I'm repeating something a member of the Canadian military told me, which could easily be wrong for 20 reasons.
National Guardsman are similar to our "reservists" and are not paid when inactive. If additional troops who were already trained but not active, we're then activated, that would account for additional costs.
So yeah, massive grain of salt but you asked and someone gave me a reasonable answer that seemed to fit. I have done no fact checking, though.
Thanks for the explanation. My understanding was that in the US, the national guard also had regular troops, not just reservists, but maybe they did call the reservists despite that or I misunderstood/misremembered.
Regardless, I still think an article explicitly about the cost of the deployment giving no information on this is absurd.
Same as it ever was.
The Cruelty Is The Point.
They'd put all the money in a literal pile and set it on literal fire before they'd just help people who need the help.
If I had to characterize the US govt when it comes to helping its citizens I'd compare it to Immortan Joe.
Immortan Joe: Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!
Yep. Cruelty and intimidation.
Look up how much we send to Israel to conduct a genocide
Sure but helping the homeless would make them actual Christians following the teachings of Christ and we know that now what Republican Christians do.
Trump only ever claimed to be Christian to sell bibles.
The cruelty is the point
"Showy? Useless? Expensive? Hurts poor people? Sounds pretty good but are you sure there is no way to put a yuge golden TRUMP sign on it?"
Trump (probably)
Oh don't worry, he's not going to pay them.
They don't want to help people. They want to surpress people. To those people it hurts to help but they feel pleasure from harm. Those types are everywhere in our society but they have found a common home in maga.
Cruelty is the point. I really don't think this country will ever change in any positive direction, sadly.
It worse than the country won't change - it's humanity that won't change.
What is actually happening to homeless people in DC at the moment?
The article is a bit vague. Some arrests, tickets?
I imagine far worse when the national guard is being called to specifically address this issue. Overall I am hearing little about the fate of the ones being targeted by the grey shirts. Does anyone have more info for an interested party?
I just hope that in this age of great information we’ll be able to find out before the collapse of the regime.
Can someone explain to me, seriously…
why is there no one with the authority to deem him unfit to govern, and demand that he step down under duress of consequences? I mean, he is clearly addled and his entire administration is provenly grifting America- Why is no one demanding that he step down?
This seriously is the end of the road for me when it comes to making enough sense of any of this that that at least resembles a modicum of logic and rationality. At this point, I just can’t understand anything beyond why this isn’t a thing, and if it is,
what are they waiting for?
The people. Americans. That's what we're waiting on.
the issue is unlike other nations in the world American law enforcement and the military will NOT hesitate to point a tank barrel in your face and pull the trigger. They are MORE than willing to fly the air force over some random town in Ohio and turn it into a parking lot. In places like France the people can riot for being told that Paper should not be thrown in the recycling bin anymore because French Authorities aren't going to start a mass slaughter of their people, American authorities on the other hand have very little regard for their fellow man.
I was one of those Canadians wondering "why aren't the people fighting back?" but now I get it. Chances are if the American people start fighting back a good massive chunk of them will be killed. So the question now is are the American people willing to literally DIE for their country? I don't blame a single one of them if they answer "no."
Because lets be honest here why throw your life away for a country that has already turned it's back on you WELL before a Nazi wannabe dictator took office. Make no mistake Americans were STILL struggling under Democratic leadership. So I don't blame them. They're tired, they're all barely surviving, their healthcare is tied directly to their employment (by design). Systems have been building and put in place for decades to ensure they DON'T rebel. Most Americans live paycheque to paycheque. The healthcare they do pay out the ass for is already pretty shitty. So fighting for ones country means you and your family no longer eat, no longer have a place to sleep, no longer have healthcare. again, this is by design.
If you've ever wondered how other Dictatorships in the world took power, this is how, this is EXACTLY how. Leverage already established systems, crank them a bit more, take and hold power.
The cards have been MASSIVELY stacked against the American people for a good long while now. Frankly, rebelling isn't an option. Like Oliver they now have to hold their wooden bowls infront of Furor Trump and ask "Please sir, may I have another?"
why is there no one with the authority to deem him unfit to govern, and demand that he step down under duress of consequences?
There is, it's called impeachment followed by a vote to remove. That vote can't pass without Republicans joining in, and they likely won't.
They're called voters.
Yeahs this is why I am usually responding to things like this saying that it was all avoidable. 91 million people stayed home and didn’t bother.
That’s what caused this. I not wish there was a way out for those that did their part.
They were called voters. They don't matter anymore, you're gonna see any potential for voters to influence things get removed by extensive and massive gerrymandering.
IMO, y'all just had your last 'real' election.
Gerrymandering only applies to the house of representatives. It has no bearing on presidential or Senate elections.
I keep seeing Americans post things like this. There's no one coming to save you.
The American people are the ones who need to be making those demands. The government should fear the people, not the other way around. Isn't this scenario exactly why there's the second amendment?
Sorry to say that this problem has been allowed to progress to the point where it will be neither convenient nor easy to solve. It's going to take consistent collective action.
I'm sorry, but do you actually understand what a concentration camp is and how permanent death is? No disrespect, but I see so many Canadians on here confused why we aren't fighting harder. Plenty of us are. But maybe it's the privilege of not knowing true American Police brutality with chemical weapons and actual lead bullets.
Yes, obviously I know those things.
I'm speaking about the population as a whole, not you as an individual. Of course there are people who are fighting the good fight daily, many of them working behind the scenes. I'm not talking about them.
I'm talking about the people asking why no one is doing anything. The ones who haven't realized they need to join others and take action. The ones who think they just need to wait this out and vote.
Everyone has their own circumstances, privileges, skills, resources, ethics, etc. Everyone can resist in some way or another. I won't claim that many of these ways don't require some personal risk or sacrifice, but to imply that all of them will be met with police brutality is not only false, but serves to make people feel hopeless and give up.
Okay, I see your confusion. We have thousands of people who we already voted for to represent us even with the anticipation of project 2025, and it's just baffling and suspicious that 100% of the thousands of representatives are doing nothing. I haven't seen anyone genuinely offer the "just vote it away" solution though.
And then you'd get Vance. Would you actually be better off ~~of~~ or just in a slightly different, adjacent hell?
Vance has no cult power . I'd trade for that asshelmet in a second. Watch how fast all Americans lose cohesion and interest when their fav icon detonates.
That's what people dont get. Trump really is unique. Pence was an asshole, but has no cult. Vance is literally an internet debatebro 4chan troll, but people legit think he is a dweeb. Trump has had that cult following for decades. It isn't easy to be that kind of guy. This is why if Trump was shot dead in 2024 the movement would have collapsed by now. Dont get me wrong, the US would still be a fucking shitshow to the extreme, but not like this.
Whataboutism at it's finest. And if Vance is unfit, we challenge it too. Simple as that.
Yes, because Vance doesn't have the charisma to be a cult leader.
Maybe not with the idiots at the base, but do the people implementing 2025 really care at this point?
Besides your voters vote for the letter next to the name anyway.
Having a Republican president who isn't a cult leader hasn't happened for 9 years now. It's hard to say how Trump not being in the picture would erode their support.
The only people with the power to decide he is unfit are all in congress, and playing a "my team vs your team" game. I'm assuming they think they'll look bad or weak or like traitors and are not willing to actually do it, or there are simply two distinct realities people live in, and in one of them he is perfectly fit to do the job.
Everyone gave up.
Including myself, I'm moving.
Come to Canada, we definitely need as many progressive voters as we can get.
And as a Canadian the Canadian government is increasingly becoming more authoritarian, too. Bill C-2 is fucking insane.
I envy you. I’m stuck here.
It’s never about the cost. It’s always about the hate.
And fear
This makes sense if cruelty is the point.
Not just cruelty. Someone else in another thread pointed out this is exactly what you would do if you're afraid of a civil war. Now, you've got an easily defended government center, and a large amount of people out in the streets that any opposing force will have to fight through in order to get to any of the governmental buildings (though really, we're only caring about the WH). Additionally, you have an oceanfront escape route if shit goes poorly.
People say these facts, but not the base fact that all these facts prove which is that this lifestyle and the narrative created is completely bullshit and we are being farmed. That's our reality but it's so fucked up nobody wants to believe it. Psychological warfare owns the path of society.
I think the top 2 comments i see ascribing this to ‘hate’ and ‘cruelty’ are missing the point. This literally is better for the capitalists’ bottom line. This can be entirely attributed to profit. The threat of violence (homelessness, etc) that the working class is kept precipitously close to powers this whole machine. If everybody was housed the threat of poverty would have less material consequence. Cruelty is not the point, in this case. Neither hate. Simply profit. Which in many ways is much more cold and insidious
I get what you're saying, and I agree.
however I've also justified this by defining hate and cruelty as the method through which they achieve profit.
so to me, the message is the same
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