Can we defund domestic terrorists yet?
Side note: lol wtf happened here?
This has been happening since yesterday. Right-wing spam bots.
Thanks mods, we appreciate you. Hope you can automate some of this...
I'm not a mod, but I share the sentiment.
Had to happen eventually ig
Oof 🤦♂️
There was a comment on another thread with like 2300 deleted messages...
To be clear, ICE isn't TARGETING the school, the school just happens to be across the street (red marker here) from the ICE office that is being protested.
So as ICE uses munitions against the protest, the school is facing the side effects.
Headline makes it sound as though ICE is targeting the school due to migrant students or something and that is not the case (yet).
Also note: There are no kids in that school currently, first day of school for them is 9/2.
Suppressing protesters in a democracy with free speech is just as bad. So happy we finally Made America great again!
You keep showing up in every thread with this.
Once again, the info is in the subheading and nothing about the headline is factually incorrect.
Is your issue that it's making ICE look bad, or do you have an issue with folks protesting them?
You keep showing up in every thread with this.
Because it's proper context.
or do you have an issue
Jordanlund likely has an issue, as do I, with misleading headlines, also known as clickbait.
Worse, I'm also local to these events. :)
It's worth noting in every thread that the headline is being inflammatory. ICE is not targeting the school or attempting to force it "into submission".
Meta, what in the actual fuck happened in these comments?
Like 2 people posted the same comment thousands of times, shittalking a mod.
Personally I think the mod did what a mod should. The headline alone isn't 100% factual. I hate that the left is resorting to the same half-facts that has made the right so powerful.
I certainly didn't get the vibe that ICE was targeting protestors and the school was getting crossfire from the subheading. Not like that really defends ICE...they shouldn't be using teargas against otherwise peaceful protestors no matter what, let alone within spotting distance of a school. Obviously ICE is very wrong here...but the headline itself tries to make them seem even more wrong, and the subheading doesn't clear things up very much. That's intentionally misleading.
Who is meta?
I prefixed the comment with "Meta," to indicate it is a meta comment...that is, a comment about the comments or the post itself, not about the content.
It's an old troll user who got banned for cause back in the day then went off the rails creating dozens to hundreds of alt accounts.
Some day they'll get the proper therapy and medication they need. Today is not that day. 😅
You shouldn’t even be allowed to spam comments that many times! There should be a time limit or something
An instance level setting? Oof...that can easily be abused. And probably has rippling effects on federated instances...I know I was getting 400s on other threads around the time he was posting.
It's showing 1395 comments. I blocked three accounts and that reduced to like 15.
the left is resorting to the same half-facts that has made the right so powerful.
This is nothing new. But it's always said that, effectively, the left's half facts are for the sake of the good. Which may be true but it still gives the right a reason to distrust the media and they're right to do so. Meanwhile, you have people begging the Democrats to fight like MAGA does - which we're seeing Newsom dabble with - but it's not going to help restore any of what little trust and decorum that may have existed. Everything is spiraling towards shit.
You're completely right about the half-truths not being a good look for the left. It only serves to erode trust in media and rhetoric. The reason it worked for the right is because that type of propaganda works on idiots that don't bother to investigate or can't actually comprehend what is going on. It's not going to have the same effect for those that haven't fallen for the rights tricks.
What we actually need is more truth to be reported and more democratic politicians to actually have a backbone or getting replaced by a leftist who does.
It really is. You can't continue to play by the rules, gloves on and above the belt, when your opponent is slamming your balls like a speed bag with brass knuckles on.
But what do we do? If we speedbag their nuts, are we any better?
This is a really great write-up, buts it’s a shame that the article does not mention that the building the school is moving into is owned by the same people that own the ICE building…
But several board members, staff and students’ parents said moving to the Bridges building could leave immigrant students at risk.
That building is owned by local real estate company Lindquist Development, which also owns the building ICE leases. Stuart Linquist, the company’s president, struck a protester with his Mercedes outside the ICE facility in 2018, and later threatened to fight anti-ICE protestors in an interview with Willamette Week about the incident.
Some Cottonwood staff and board members fear Lindquist could allow ICE agents into the building while students are in classes, according to sources who spoke to Street Roots on condition of anonymity.
Its also a Charter School so... look, I actually went to a REALLY good charter school and think it changed the course of my life. But the vast majority are scams that cut every corner due to lessened regulations.
And considering this all spun out not from "we can't teach under these circumstances" and instead "the constant chemical warfare is lowering our enrollment rates": They were gonna let ICE in regardless.
My children attended this school until recently, it was initially a very good environment for a less factory-learning structure, especially for less conformist children; we moved them before the protests and responses were an alleged driving factor for relocating. There was already an exodus in progress once the protests were in full swing due to alarming turnover rates among the teaching staff throughout the year as well as multiple issues with the now-removed principal and much of the board (spoiler: lots of turnover there too).
The board (old and new) has consistently tried to operate behind closed doors, stifle parental/community input at meetings, and actively ignores their bylaws/rules/policies as it suits their interests. The meetings leading up to their announcing the move barely pretended to hold to posted agendas or consider the limited input they allowed.
General consensus among most parents that attended/participated board meetings recently was that they (board) were actively trying to spin an excuse to lease from Lundquist (guy that owns the ICE building) with many questioning if one or more members had personal/financial ties to him. Other facilities not mentioned in the article were aggressively dismissed by the board during meetings leading up to the announcement for arbitrary reasons without exploring remedies or workarounds to their declared obstacles, seemingly to create their "we only have two options" narrative they pushed in the article.
I worked for a STEM company that was hired to augment lessons and classes, primarily at charter schools. Most of the schools I visited were obvious scams and a few would disappear mid-year.
Not a fan of charter schools either, but that doesn't seem related to this in any way. This is still a school full of children being exposed to this bullshit.
School isn't currently in session, so no kids actually exposed at this point.
First day of school for them is 9/2.
Maybe. Can't speak for charter schools, but most schools aren't entirely devoid of children for the entire summer.
I checked the calendar on their site. :)
I actually went to a REALLY good charter school and think it changed the course of my life. But the vast majority are scams that cut every corner due to lessened regulations.
The fundamental goal of the charter school as a model is to cut the parents and the teachers out of the job of administering the school. Great that we can point to some number of charter schools where things haven't gone to shit. But they're still just trying to ignore the Private Equity Value Eating Machine and hoping it doesn't roll over them next.
Says something that the school was moved under ICE's privatized landlord. It really feels like a deliberate play to extort the charter.
They were gonna let ICE in regardless.
Arm the Teachers
They consider “ICE === Gestapo” an incendiary message? Wait til they see the things that ICE agents say about the people they’re pretending to “protect.”
I read enough YA dystopian stuff to tell who the bad guys are in this picture.
They'll purge that subversive material soon enough.
... The teachers because one of those gestapo is actually really handsome and will reveal that they are only being fascy because actually all the kids except for the viewpoint character have bad vibes?
terrorstate behavior
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