I enjoy alcohol now, but I avoided it for a long time due to hating the taste. I still don’t like most beer, and I’ve never drank long enough to get fully drunk. The only thing that got me into it was finding drinks with a sweet taste that I liked.

I want to say that it shouldn’t matter with a good group of friends. But, I’ll admit a lot of the better social parties I’ve been to have involved drinking. It’s hard to say where the balance lies.

No tobacco. I hate the smell of it. I drink probably too much but life sucks. What can you do.

I've tried stuff. Don't like it. Shit's nasty. Some alcohol tastes fine but then there are the cognitive effects--no thank you.

Every tobacco smoker is gross.

Maybe that's a product of the old "every swan is white" kind of fallacy (don't know the name of it offhand), but I've never met a habitual smoker that didn't cause physical pain to be around. They stink, their clothes stink, their car stinks, their room stinks, and maybe their whole house.

"Stinks" may be just an opinion, but it seems to be almost universally agreed on (again, in my experience).

I've always looked down on them and judged them for consciously coding to smell like that, especially because all they get from it is keeping the symptoms of withdrawal away. They don't get "high", they don't even get "relaxed" (except in the manner of relief from withdrawal symptoms). Literally all they get is smelling like poison and a priority pass to the lung cancer ride.

Not to mention possibly causing mild symptoms to everyone else nearby.

Also everyone doing it now wasn't born back when they thought it was beneficial or even neutral. It's always been the most reliable route to cancer in everyone alive today's life.

So I think all smokers are stupid and stinky at the very best, and intentionally malicious at worst.

Given that there is absolutely no benefit at all, and given the definite danger of it to you and others, I deem smokers are just bad people in general.

On the more stupid end of the spectrum, they're more stupid than bad, but even the very "best" tobacco for is stupid AF.

So to answer, no I don't consume tobacco, and that is why.

Alcohol I believe is at least not as addictive, but is a bad choice for most of the same reasons. Typically they have to go more out of control to present an offensive odor, and if kept away from driving or sharp things, much less danger to others.

Their motivations seem more apparent since they do get high from it (drunk is basically just the word for a high specifically from alcohol). I also think that (not pushing this as I don't know definitively) alcohol does less cumulative damage over time when used responsibly.

I drank occasionally (aka like 2x a week at the extreme high end) for a few years, and while I didn't ever get a hangover exactly, I did black out once and started getting headaches regularly, so it quickly became more of a negative than a positive. Haven't touched it for over 9 years, except for one sip of champagne for a toast at my brother's wedding. And it was kinda gross in my opinion. Never did like the taste of alcohol, but being drunk was fun as a while as a kid, and enjoying doing something my parents wouldn't like (coming out of a pretty conservative household) was part of it.

But almost no one just smokes occasionally. Plenty of drinkers drink occasionally. And if they're not driving, they're likely being annoying at worst. I don't judge them nearly as harshly as tobacco smokers.

I'm fine with weed enjoyers. Whether you smoke it, vape it, or eat it, I'm interested in all of it. But it does still have an odor problem. Tobacco smells bad kinda universally (in my opinion), and that tar in it makes it super gross. I've never seen weed smoke "set in" to anything and make any permanent kinda smell. Maybe because I keep it cleaned up, maybe just because it's not as oppressive in the first place.

Obviously I'm biased in how "bad" the smells are in relation to each other, but weed smell does seem to dissipate more. In my case I dry vape it, mostly through a window so it goes outside. None of my shit smells like weed. The room smells a bit when I'm emptying abv and loading new, but as soon as it's put away it's like it was never there.

So anyway, no. I don't do either. And if you smoke tobacco (at least often or regularly), we are probably not friends. And you would definitely not be my SO. Smoking goes on the "ick" list for sure. Probably the textbook example of an ick.

There doesn't appear to be too many bad examples in here, so allow me.

I smoked cigarettes for a long time and, at 59, got to experience lung cancer. I'm currently 62 and still dealing with it. I'd probably be dead now if the mass in my lung hadn't adhered to the back of my chest cavity and eroded into one of my ribs causing a ridiculous amount of pain. Lung cancer usually goes undetected until it spreads to other places, like the brain, so I guess I got lucky. It did pop up on an adrenal gland, but we nuked that one too. I have another small mass in my other lung that will probably have to be radiated too. I'm also dealing with emphysema and a mouth half full of fucked up teeth. (So glamorous!)

Having no wind in my sails and trying to talk around and eat with both upper and lower partials just sucks all around. I'm only 62, but I feel like I'm 82, and I only have myself to blame.

No tobacco because ew and no alcohol because headaches

No. I don't want cancer, so i don't smoke. I also was an alco, so I'm recovered now and don't want to go back to that. I'm sure my liver agrees with my decision.

I drink and have never smoked. While parents smoked, there was a push at the time to keep people from starting to smoke. In contrast, drinking was still shown to be a cool thing.

It seems like a lot of younger people have become more sober than before, so it isn't that unusual.

I have a friend that I smoke a cigarette with at parties (the last time was several years ago so not a common occurrence) and I also have never once bought a pack for myself. If I drink it's only at social occasions and only if they have anything I like (and if it's not too expensive). I smoked my selfgrown weed once the rest I gave to a friend and I'm probably gonna test this years harvest as well. And while we are at it I also took LSD once and I would want to try shrooms one day.

I smoke nicotine plants maybe once or twice a month ritualistically. It's genuinely nice in moderation (and something only a tiny, tiny minority typically pursue).

As for alcohol, it's GHB but toxic--GHB is better in every single way, no thanks.

I smoked tobacco from 15-25. Tried several times to quit and finally did. I had to convince myself I hated the taste, so I would only buy the shittiest tobacco possible. Sometimes I'd buy the pouches to force myself to roll my own without a filter, which is fucking gross.

I didn't drink (much if at all) until my late 20s. Having a drink socially is fine and can be a great way to meet new people, so long as you don't overdo it and make an ass of yourself. I still drink and am trying to do something similar to what I did with tobacco - basically only drink the lowest ABV option available, or wine with dinner.

Cannabis is a mixed bag for me. I started young around 13 and smoked heavily until my mid 20s, quit mostly, and now smoke again (but far less than when I was younger). I quit for weeks at a time and may smoke a bit before playing video games or when I complete a big project.

I consider cannabis the least harmful since it isn't very addictive, elevates my mood, and I don't ever "smoke too much".

Yes, in short, because I like them.

For better or worse, booze is a big part of British socialising culture, so it's unusual if someone my age (mid thirties millennial) has never drank, but a couple of my mates have gone tee total in recent years.

Why do I still do it? Beers with your mates whilst enjoying a beer garden or watching the footie is a pretty enjoyable way to pass the time. I'm also a bit of a nerd with it all so I love trying new beers, there's been a huge renaissance around beer variety over the past decade-ish, so there's always something new to try. I've gotten more into wine and cocktails in recent years too, and there's a rich well of variety in there to experience too.

Smoking tobacco I generally avoid now, it's nice to have the odd one with a beer but I'll probably only have a few a year now. I regularly smoked last in my 20s. I occasionally have ended up with a vape in my pocket after a big night out, but I don't really like them much flavour wise.

Weed is something I still enjoy, it helps me clear my head, relax, and kinda be more present with whatever activity I'm engaging in, if I'm smoking with mates it can often be a pretty hilarious time. However, it's easy for me to slip into habitual use with it especially though, I don't really seem to get much in the way of acute negative effects beyond tolerance, so I try to be mindful to keep it in check these days. I'll probably try and relegate it to a treat for when I visit somewhere like Amsterdam in the coming years given the downsides of smoking (I've got a vape, but I basically never choose it).

FWIW I've heard that Gen Z is differing their consumption habits significantly from previous generations. Less drinking alcohol in general, preferring non-smokeable forms of tobacco/weed.

I used to be a social smoker (cigarettes, shisha and randomly a cigar). However, I quit years ago with it.

I once had a thought “we are like a lucifer lighter, isn’t it? We smoke, smoke and smoke. Get all burned up and then throw away our lives because of it”.

At that moment, I told myself; no more. Quit cold-turkey. I never drink alcohol (due to religion).

I don't smoke, can't stand the smell. I did try when I was a lad, it didn't take. I even tried clove cigs for a bit.

Took me a lot longer with alcohol. Family history and trauma put me off trying until much later in life. But I've since developed a particular taste for red ales, rich bold stout, fruity cocktails, hard ciders, and a number of complex spirits.

I had to shed that restrictive upbringing and get more in touch with my own tastes, which turned out to be surprisingly broad and nuanced.

Late Gen X, practically Millennial here.

My parents expressly forbade me from smoking despite being heavy smokers themselves. They also got that same forbidding from their parents, but I guess it didn't stick with them.

As such, I'm not sure whether that had any influence, or whether it was a natural aversion to the stink and filth of it but I've never smoked. Cost would have also been a big factor that prevented me from getting into it. I never had any money as a kid, and also had no smoker friends, let alone generous smoker friends, so getting a hold of anything to smoke was pretty much impossible.

Stealing from my parents might have been an option, I suppose, but I would not have wanted to face their wrath had I done that.

Alcohol and I do not get along. Too many bad experiences have come about through the combination, and it took far too long for me to learn lessons from it.

Even if I was not on medication that came with the heavy suggestion to avoid alcohol, I would not drink.

I've never smoked and I don't ever plan to (it can lessen the effect of HRT) but I do drink alcohol occasionally. Meaning I drink maybe one cocktail or longdrink every two or three months.

Smoking no, never. I was a heavy drinker in my teens and 20s, gave that up because I was getting fat (I'm vain, deal with it!). At that time, I started taking MDMA and speed. It was the late 90s, so it was a pretty standard for the rave and alternative scenes at the time. Gave that up when I got Menieres disease in my early 40s. Now I have one drink once or twice a month, but mostly drink plain old water.

I'm the older end of Gen X, and have never smoked. The major factor in starting is peer pressure and I didn't have any peers around me at the critical time who did. My family didn't either.

I seldom drink alcohol and then I have only ever enjoyed cider - not beer, wine or spirits. This is just a matter of the taste for me. I simply don't like it.

As a kid, I had had grape juice and I had heard adults enthusing about wine as usual and I had a idea what it must taste like.

If you imagine a taste/mouthfeel spectrum with wine at one end and grape juice in the middle, what I imagined wine to taste like was pretty much at the opposite end of that spectrum to what it actually tastes like. I had one mouthful and had no desire for any more at all. I have obviously tried wine and the rest at various times since, but my opinion is basically the same.

With cider, I'll seldom have more that a pint or two a month these days.

Smoking: never, it smells awefull.

Drinking: yes, but not regularly and never alone. Most of the time in social situations and when partying.

Drugs: never.

Gambling: I play gacha games.

I use nicotine to self Medicare ADHD..unflavored nicotine pouches.

I like beer, malt liquor, alcopops, bourbon, and gin, too. why? uh.... monkey brain?

No and no, because I'm Muslim and because both are poison that will literally kill you.

I drink plenty of booze. My go to is Whiskey and diet coke.

I'm chronically ill so I can't smoke or drink. But I used to smoke marijuana and drink alcohol. At least at parties or sometimes a glass of wine with dinner. I sometimes miss it but not too much.

Friend of mine is basically like you. Never smoked, never drank except for half a glass of champagne on his 18th birthday. The closest he ever came to real drug use was when we were playing board games with friends in a closed room and three joints were constantly circling the table. At one point he remarked feeling a bit woozy.

But people mostly accept his choice. And even in our most egregious party phases he was constantly one of the last people to leave a party. So it didn't exclude him socially or so.

I've never smoked. My mom died of lung cancer when I was 14, that was a clear message.

I have consumed alcohol for most of my adult life. At present, I have 3 beers a week on average, wine perhaps a couple of times a year (usually holidays), and other drinks every couple of years. I drank more and more often in the past but it's been less and less over time.

Not nearly as much as I once did. I quit dipping about 15 years ago and started drinking a lot less after getting diagnosed and medicated for ADHD.

I do enjoy a good cigar and a glass of Macallan occasionally but that's too expensive to be a regular habit.

Tried it, didn’t like it.

Cigarettes are gross, and alcohol leaves me with a headache and upset stomach.

I never smoked. No desire to do so. Too many adverse effects and too expensive compared to psychiatric drugs.

I used to drink a little bit, specifically liqueurs like Disaronno and RumChata. I just liked the taste, honest! Can't drink those anymore because of my meds 😕. Oh well.

I haven't drank any booze in about 7 years. I stopped when I met my now wife cause I only drank in clubs before trying (and usually failing) to get laid and I was no longer single so why would I go to these places? I never liked the taste, tbh, and thanks to her I eventually went back to God and converted to Islam so that gave me an ever bigger push until eventually alcohol just tasted too gross to even consider. I also think that being foolishly drunk after a certain age is just shameful (have a glass of wine/can of beer here and there but if you're a loud alcoholic past the age of 30 you need to check yourself, and I hope you have no offspring yet/they're old enough to disregard your bad example).

I don't mind the herb, and I've smoked ciggies since I was 15 but I'm on almost on the 3rd month of a cannabis break (recent changes in my life require my full attention) and I went down to a pack of menthols a week years ago because the French government pretty much doubled the price of ciggies in the span of a decade. At least it forced me to control my intake! 😅

I never smoked anything.

I hardly ever drink alcoholic beverages but that's mostly because I don't enjoy their taste and mouth/throat feel.

I have nothing against drinking, as long as it's not overdone and (obviously!) not combined with driving or other dangerous activities. Under those conditions it's genuinely harmless fun and socializing.

The only time I was remotely drunk was at a wedding where I found a wine I actually liked. I think I drank the whole bottle, or maybe half of it, something like that. I liked the feeling of how my muscles are loose and don't react normally. I didn't feel like my thinking was compromised, but who knows.

Even if my mind was intact, it's obviously no state to drive if my muscles don't do what they would. I have no idea how some people actually get behind the wheel in this state.

I don't do tobacco, I just don't like it and the adverse health effects are well documented.

I do weed occasionally on weekends to relax, I'll mix things up between a dry flower vape (Pax) and edibles.

I also drink on weekends for the same reason, relaxation. I usually have a set amount in mind then stop for the evening and switch to tea. I only get stupid a few times a year with friends.

No drugs, done weed a few times may years ago.

Drink about once every couple weeks.

No, watched a close relative die a long, slow, painful death from emphysema. Never felt a desire to smoke.

As I've noted elsewhere, my liver doesn't process alcohol correctly so I can't drink either.

I've tried smoking cigarettes and cigars a few times, tastes like shit. If I go out with friends to a shisha bar however, I'll probably smoke with them. Haven't done so in years though. As for weed, I don't care for it enough to smoke regularly. I won't say no if I'm out with friends, but I won't seek it out myself.

As for drinking, I'll have a beer on the weekend, I'll buy some white wine 3 or 4 times a year, and have cocktails on special occasions. I suppose I'm a social drinker.

They're both enjoyable, but too addictive for me.

I drink since I'm 12, at least once a week (not quite till blackout ...) because, it's the only legal drug I can take.... Except for Weird stuff from pharmacies, but that's too expensive, and you only trip for 4 hours

Never smoked (although I probably got a fair bit second hand from my dad, back in the day)

Don't do crazy drinking, but do enjoy a cold pint or two now and then, and maybe a few more if I'm out at a gig or something. And in the summer I'll often have some bottles chilling in the fridge.

Also enjoy an occasional whisky - single malt, nice and smoky, preferably.

Don't usually have other spirits, maybe vodka or rum in a cocktail, but pretty rarely tbh.