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submitted 1 year ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The White House reiterated on Friday that President Biden would not pardon his son Hunter Biden if he is convicted of a crime.

When asked if Biden would commute his son’s sentence if convicted on gun charges, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said no. This marks the first definitive answer the administration has given since Hunter Biden was formally charged on Thursday, though a similar message was first floated in July.

“I’ve answered this question before,” Jean-Pierre said, referencing the July briefing. “It was asked of me not too long ago, a couple of weeks ago, and I was very clear, and I said no.”

Hunter Biden was indicted on three felony gun charges, alleging that the younger Biden illegally purchased a gun while on drugs. The charges could carry a 10 year sentence if convicted.

His attorney has denied the charges, and said their constitutionality is “very much in doubt”

“It is a unique and unjustified charge. Hunter owned an unloaded gun for 11 days,” attorney Abbe Lowell said Thursday. “There has never been a charge like this that has been brought in the United States.”

The president’s son is also under investigation by a federal special counsel for alleged tax misconduct and by a Republican House investigation into prior business deals.

Special Counsel David Weiss stated in court filings that he intends to finalize charges related to the tax misconduct by the end of the month.

Republicans allege that Biden used his position to garner lucrative deals for his son. Members of the House GOP have used the claims to push for an impeachment inquiry against the president.

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[-] OctopusKurwa@lemm.ee 148 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile Trump sold people like Lil Wayne pardons for 2 million quid a pop and sprung Roger Stone and Paul Manafort.

[-] biker_bard@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t matter because they’re not playing by the same rules. Things like ethics are NOT relevant to the right. They only care about perceived wins. We are quickly approaching the point where ALL things will be on the table.

[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Right? The precedent has been set, the president can use the pardon power for favors or profit or whatever. Biden should just call it a witch hunt, pardon Hunter, and everyone will forget in 2 weeks.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

That's the kind of thing you only get to do when you sell your soul to the devil.

If you're the soul having variety of politician then that option simply isn't available to you.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Problem is that it still damages the institutions and weakens the rule of law and democracy. The right always has an advantage because they want to destroy democracy while playing politics, whereas the center and left need to also protect democracy on top of playing politics.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Too many people, even on the left, don't understand this point. The Democrats have to fight bad faith actors while not stooping the their shitty level.

So every time I hear lefties screaming why isn't Joe doing more, it's because he has to play by the rules and not act like lunatic Trump.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

And Rod Blagojevich who tried to use his power as Governor of the state of Illinois to literally sell a senate seat to the highest bidder. He was convicted and sent to prison....and Trump pardoned him.

[-] hudson@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

2 million quid a pop

Thanks for the mental image of Trump forcing Lil Wayne to pay in British Pounds rather than USD in some sort of sadistic mind-game.

[-] PupBiru@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

i believe the current policy is to force people to pay in rubles

[-] loobkoob@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Two million rubles? Let me check down the back of the sofa

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

And Flynn, who is an unindicted co-conspirator I’m Georgia now, for things he did since he was pardoned.

[-] rastilin@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Revoke their pardons then. It's only fair.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, honestly he should just wait until the 11th hour of his presidency in part in them it's not It doesn't happen for practically every president since the beginning

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

I'm going to keep asking this question and you should too: why is the NRA being so silent?

[-] Bread_And_Buried@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

The NRA, and Republicans supported gun control targeted at armed people of color, so this really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

Gun control in California comes from Republicans being afraid of the Black Panthers, and Ronald Reagan is actually the one that banned open carrying in the state. Now Republicans blame liberals for the strict gun laws in California, because the brains of Republicans have been eaten by amoeba.

[-] charles@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Obviously because they agree that the federal government should be taking guns and locking up anyone who uses any drug. /s

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because the NRA isn't about gun rights.

[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

The GOP is what occurs when a sewer full of used condoms reach critical mass.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This explains why they’re anti-abortion. They want to live…

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"If Joe pardons Hunter, then he's a terrible father for not teaching his son to take responsibility for his actions. And if Joe doesn't pardon Hunter, then he's a terrible father for not showing his son unconditional love and understanding."

Coming soon from Fox or NYT near you.....

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Oh, I heard pretty much the same thing on on local radio. I think they all get the same newsletter that tells them what their talking points should be.

[-] saruwatarikooji@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You're not far off... Basically any news outlets with any ties to murdoch get a script for what they have to say.

There was a YouTube video not long back that pulled clips from a bunch of local news stations and showed how they were all saying the exact same thing almost verbatim... It started cutting between them in succession and the report was still coherent.

[-] Zerophnx@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I mean, obviously he'll just pardon himself!

He's running for president, and that's why we keep hearing about him, right?

[-] seathru@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Hunter Biden was indicted on three felony gun charges, alleging that the younger Biden illegally purchased a gun while on drugs.

Do Republicans really want to open the Pandora's box of combing through firearms sales? Surely that leopard wouldn't turn on them.

Hunter owned an unloaded gun for 11 days

That kind of sounds like a straw purchase, and is something with a legal precedent. Why wouldn't they go for that?

[-] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

That kind of sounds like a straw purchase, and is something with a legal precedent. Why wouldn’t they go for that?

He only owned it for 11 days because his wife threw it in the garbage.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

That does not sound like the right way to get rid of a gun.

[-] seathru@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Ahh, the old "My wife threw it in the trash". Second only to "I lost it in a boating accident".

I jest. Thanks for answering, I didn't know that part.

[-] blazera@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Awesome, so republicans are on board with more gun regulation right?

[-] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I want the book to be thrown at Hunter.

Ten times the penalty that Trump got the last time he was evading taxes and ten times the gun charges the last NRA fluffer got when they had a gun on probation (or whatever that charge is)

We can't send the message that the children of our president can just enrich themselves at the teat of the government.

...

Of course he shouldn't pardon him. How has it come this far?

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Edit: Did I really have to be more obvious that this is a criticism of Trump and his family's behavior? Seriously? I even used the word fluffer.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

We can't send the message that the children of our president can just enrich themselves at the teat of the government.

We missed that boat by about 6 years.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I can't believe nobody has even brought up all the taxpayer dollars that went into the Presidents hotels while he was in office.

*checks notes*

Oh, wait. Biden is President now?

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, because the hotels were his, he charged a special rate.

[-] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean. Did everyone really not get that?

Did I have to be more obvious that this was commentary on the trump family?

I'm down voted a lot already, but seriously?

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Sarcasm died under Trump. Sorry.

[-] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sigh. My wife and I are currently talking about a "this is why we can't have nice things" movie parody of the godfather or something.

I can't find it because the Internet now sucks and t swift has over taken that query.

I didn't know that was a thing!

[-] lingh0e@lemmy.film 5 points 1 year ago

Are you talking about "Mafia!", the 1998 Lloyd Bridges and Jay Mohr mob movie spoof?

[-] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

yes! thanks!

The dog breaking is the greatest.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Sadly true. The level of ass-kissing and cognitive dissonance is really at an all-time high.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

So. You’re for prosecuting Jared Kushner, too?

Who received 2 billion dollars from the Saudis for no stated reason. While serving as a senior advisor to his daddy-in-law?

Hunters employment might be a bit shady…. But it wasn’t illegal. kushner’s bribe was.

[-] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Of course. That was commentary on the trump crime family.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately we were shown time and time again that GOP doesn't care about looking like hypocrites. Their base is completly disconnected with the real world.

[-] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

If he did the crime, he should do the time. See how fucking simple that is, you republican monkeyspanks?

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