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[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Tbh I have a $300 robot vacuum cleaner/mopper that saves me a ton of time. We call it "robama" so we can say "thanks, robama"

The fact of the matter is it's easier to do things purely in the digital domain, like making digital images, or text. The menial, physical world stuff will be automated too, it'll just take longer. Things like a dishwasher, and washing machine/dryer are pretty overlooked pieces of automation we already have.

[-] copdeb@crazypeople.online 2 points 16 hours ago

Nah. We algo have developed a lot of technology to clean and to help with House chores. What is expected for us humans is near the bare minimun

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Comrade, why are you sitting and drawing? Are you crazy? The good times are over, it's time to go to a construction site under AI control!

Well, as for our human bosses, who knows, maybe they are just a myth?

[-] Sertou@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

If you're doing it right, cooking is art.

[-] lalala@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

There is no right answer in art. So AI can do it.

[-] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Cooking can be an art too!

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

It's much easier to treat it as an art if you do it because you want to, not because you have to.

Like most things in life, really.

[-] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Well said 💪

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly, everything that machines can do, there are some people who love doing it, and there can be an art to it. And for each such thing, other humans hate doing it and prefer automation.

Some people love cleaning, but we have robot vacuums and mops.

Some people love cooking and baking, but we have packaged food that requires minimal or no preparation.

Some people love woodworking or glassblowing, but most of our furniture and household items are mass produced.

Some people love managing their own computer or phone, but most people prefer to just let the manufacturer and operating system do it for them.

Some people love growing food with manual tools, but most farming these days is done with automatic machines.

Some people love driving, others can't wait for self-driving cars or prefer public transport just so they don't have to drive.

The list goes on. Anything can be an art.

I don't know what my stance is on this. I think automation is necessary for the sheer quantities we need. I also think passionate professionals can nearly always do a better job than a machine, but it's obviously more expensive and can't keep up with demand.

I guess the difference is that drawing and writing only have value as art. If I don't like drawing I almost never have to do it, but if I don't like preparing food I either suck it up and do it anyway hating every moment, or it can be (and, in fact, is) a serious detriment for my health and well-being.

[-] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Right, personally I don't like cooking and would be fine with automating that (instead of just ordering/heating junk food).

The most important thing is not to replace stuff completely, but give the choice to each and every individual person themselves. Great if it's available, also great if you don't want to use it.

And if you use it, don't be a dick and claim it was you who did it.

[-] fading_person@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

I guess the main difference in all those activities is when doing something for yourself, as a hobby or relaxing activity, or when doing something as an obligation, or even worse, doing something for others. Even something like drawing can become terrible if you have to stress yourself, follow someone's orders instead of your own style, and have to do it fast to meet some deadline.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

love cleaning

Freaks

robot vacuum

That doesn't really work and spies on you. Still requires human intervention.

cooking

Not if you want it to taste good. You're thinking of restaurants.

some people get off on being pwnd

That's a serious problem on so many levels.

furniture

You think i wouldn't like some good handmade shit that will last firever instead of this ikea crap that will come apart a little every time i move it? But i get told my labor isnt worth that. So the old growth wood gets chopped into tiny pieces for my fückyoü cabinets. Still made by people btw. I will dig up William morris and stroke his century dead disintegrated corpse dick til it soaks you in formaldehyde over this.

food is mostoy automated

Nope. You're just wrong about this. It's a seeious problem with these harsh border regimes; no farm labor. People will go hungry.

only have value as 'art'

No.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

Half of those "quotes" are either made up by you or you didn't quote enough context to even understands what you're saying.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not exact words. Concepts so you know what section or idea of yours im referring to. Have you tried to precisely copy paste on a fuck damn touch screen? Im sorry, but you're not worth that. I'm not worth that. Nobody is worth that.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I do it all the time. It depends which app you're using I guess. It's not as easy as on a PC but it works fine for me on Android.

What the hell did you mean by "get off on getting pwnd"?

Letting corporatiobs own their computers.

[-] oppy1984@lemdro.id 6 points 1 day ago

Exactly, I'm not a bad cook, I'm a starving artist!

[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No one is making an art piece every meal.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

No one is making an art piece every art either. See: the original dickbutt comic.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

well with that attitude you aren't eating at my place

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Twenty years ago, some savvy engineers created the Rumba. It's a kind of annoying overpriced vacuum cleaner, but you can at least see the edges of a useful appliance.

Ten years ago, everyone was smelling their own farts about the advent of autonomous taxis. And, idk, we can at least pretend we're in the ballpark right now.

Today, it's noticeable how AI feels like a surrender on actual autonomous machines. Like, the idea of doing actual robotics is out the window. We're only going to spend our money on a solved problem - data processing - and see what we can wring out of it.

I do wonder what this will mean in another ten or twenty years.

[-] cabb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

It's not hyped in the media, probably because it's Chinese companies doing it, but there have been massive strides towards creating humanoid robotics in the past couple of years. They aren't nearly to the point of being autonomous but there's a simple humanoid robot that's selling for 5900 today.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that robotics stuff is happening still (e.g. little robot mowers using machine vision for easier guidance).

But you are right that the prospect of advanced robotics gets a fraction of the attention that chatbots get. Trillions of bets on datacenter bound LLMs that can generate images, videos, and text but a relative pittance for advancements that would translate to physical labor..

I get that there's value, but the value proposition seems way out of whack.

[-] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

there is plenty of work going on autonomous front but its solely focused on means to kill the peasants who try to inconvenience the oligarchs. take a look at palmers anduril industries. there are other such companies based in the confederate states.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There's a lot of salesmanship going on. But whether it really does anything or it just outsources work to a Mechanical Turk or blows smoke up your ass?

Even Lavender AI seems more like an excuse for conventional manual massacre than a real Skynet for Palestinians.

What does Anduril do that the NSA or the CIA wasn't already doing, except maybe putting a thick coat of bullshit on the conclusion?

[-] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

nsa and cia can’t whack large number of americans without some risk of mutiny from the soldiers. ai based large scale precision strike does give them both the capability and excuse to do so. what’s easier, to ask 100k soldiers to kill 2-3 people each and feel no guilt or a dozen narcissistic psychopaths to kill 10k people each and feel godlike ? its not really rocket science just track their cell and do a missile/drone strike at the location with basic face detection. they don’t care for few false-positives. its not like any of the targets will be living near oligarchs palace or mega-yacht

you are right the lavender is far from skynet but it lets the israeli scums say that they are not indiscriminately killing innocents but based on petabytes of data analysed by microsoft. and you can’t punish ai for mistakes. bombing kids collecting water or destroying a dialysis center, oopsie sorry the ai hallucinated, we will ask trump for a multi-billion refund to buy more bombs for proper testing.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

nsa and cia can’t whack large number of americans without some risk of mutiny from the soldiers

I haven't seen any evidence of that. If anything, the number of ex-military in the new ICE would suggest the opposite.

it lets the israeli scums say that they are not indiscriminately killing innocents but based on petabytes of data analysed by microsoft

Sure. Drop a bomb, kill a dozen people, get a little print out that says "all of these people were terrorists".

It works well in Israel largely because the public (and particularly the military) are juiced on hate. They've already done 90% of the work of indoctrination up front.

You don't even talk about hallucinations. You just say "data indicated terrorists" and move on.

But it's trivial to tell a computer to tag a picture of a person as . That's not something Palmer Luckey needs a multi billion dollar payday to accomplish. Just like with Elon, a bunch of this tech is smoke and mirrors. It's six guys dragging a CyberTaxi on stage, so a few dorks can step out and say "The Future is Magic Cars!"

[-] MohamedMoney@feddit.org 26 points 1 day ago

It’ll get worse and more boring.

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the reason we need you || what we need you for
( choose one )

[-] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 day ago

Soon it will become good at cleaning and chores, then what would we do?

[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

Die so the rich don’t have to pay out taxes on retirement or social programs

[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

And then they fight amongst themselves to be number 1?

[-] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago

We should just do that now. Billionaire squid games.

[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 6 points 1 day ago

What happened to horses when the internal combustion engine became popular?

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago
[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I don't think we killed them all, but there was certainly a lot less horse sex happening

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We killed most of them. Butchered them for parts.

Why tge fuck would we have kept feeding something that didnt make line go up?

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

You've already bought it, and the combustion engine didn't make them useless overnight.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

overnight

Who was arguing this?

Im saying they didnt get to go live happy horsey lives in neadows upstate.

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The robots make the music and art and the humans pack the boxes and deliver the food.

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago
[-] LoreSoong@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago

I dont want chefs to be out of work either.

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