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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Twenty years ago, some savvy engineers created the Rumba. It's a kind of annoying overpriced vacuum cleaner, but you can at least see the edges of a useful appliance.

Ten years ago, everyone was smelling their own farts about the advent of autonomous taxis. And, idk, we can at least pretend we're in the ballpark right now.

Today, it's noticeable how AI feels like a surrender on actual autonomous machines. Like, the idea of doing actual robotics is out the window. We're only going to spend our money on a solved problem - data processing - and see what we can wring out of it.

I do wonder what this will mean in another ten or twenty years.

[-] cabb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

It's not hyped in the media, probably because it's Chinese companies doing it, but there have been massive strides towards creating humanoid robotics in the past couple of years. They aren't nearly to the point of being autonomous but there's a simple humanoid robot that's selling for 5900 today.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that robotics stuff is happening still (e.g. little robot mowers using machine vision for easier guidance).

But you are right that the prospect of advanced robotics gets a fraction of the attention that chatbots get. Trillions of bets on datacenter bound LLMs that can generate images, videos, and text but a relative pittance for advancements that would translate to physical labor..

I get that there's value, but the value proposition seems way out of whack.

[-] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago

there is plenty of work going on autonomous front but its solely focused on means to kill the peasants who try to inconvenience the oligarchs. take a look at palmers anduril industries. there are other such companies based in the confederate states.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There's a lot of salesmanship going on. But whether it really does anything or it just outsources work to a Mechanical Turk or blows smoke up your ass?

Even Lavender AI seems more like an excuse for conventional manual massacre than a real Skynet for Palestinians.

What does Anduril do that the NSA or the CIA wasn't already doing, except maybe putting a thick coat of bullshit on the conclusion?

[-] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

nsa and cia can’t whack large number of americans without some risk of mutiny from the soldiers. ai based large scale precision strike does give them both the capability and excuse to do so. what’s easier, to ask 100k soldiers to kill 2-3 people each and feel no guilt or a dozen narcissistic psychopaths to kill 10k people each and feel godlike ? its not really rocket science just track their cell and do a missile/drone strike at the location with basic face detection. they don’t care for few false-positives. its not like any of the targets will be living near oligarchs palace or mega-yacht

you are right the lavender is far from skynet but it lets the israeli scums say that they are not indiscriminately killing innocents but based on petabytes of data analysed by microsoft. and you can’t punish ai for mistakes. bombing kids collecting water or destroying a dialysis center, oopsie sorry the ai hallucinated, we will ask trump for a multi-billion refund to buy more bombs for proper testing.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

nsa and cia can’t whack large number of americans without some risk of mutiny from the soldiers

I haven't seen any evidence of that. If anything, the number of ex-military in the new ICE would suggest the opposite.

it lets the israeli scums say that they are not indiscriminately killing innocents but based on petabytes of data analysed by microsoft

Sure. Drop a bomb, kill a dozen people, get a little print out that says "all of these people were terrorists".

It works well in Israel largely because the public (and particularly the military) are juiced on hate. They've already done 90% of the work of indoctrination up front.

You don't even talk about hallucinations. You just say "data indicated terrorists" and move on.

But it's trivial to tell a computer to tag a picture of a person as . That's not something Palmer Luckey needs a multi billion dollar payday to accomplish. Just like with Elon, a bunch of this tech is smoke and mirrors. It's six guys dragging a CyberTaxi on stage, so a few dorks can step out and say "The Future is Magic Cars!"

[-] MohamedMoney@feddit.org 26 points 2 days ago

It’ll get worse and more boring.

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