TaiShan 1989? Nothing happened there.
Edit: /s just in case.
I don't think "T.S." means anything to most chinese...
"TS" is far from "Tian An Men Guang Chang".
It is not even sure if authorities notice it...
Tiananmen Square? This would be dead obvious to Hong Kongers. Hell, even just '1989' is enough.
You don't see people wear shirts that openly criticize the CCP these days. Not after all the arbitrary arrests where even wearing plain black clothing was enough to incriminate you.
I don't recommend going to Hong Kong anymore. It's a husk of its former self. The streets are far emptier, and every other storefront is closed because people and business have packed up and left in droves. If you do, certainly don't wear this shirt there.
I spent some time living in HK before the mess and loved it, despite not being a big city fan. The other day I crossed a family from there here in Europe and the dad told me they fled because of it. I'm kinda curious to go just to see the changes for myself.
If you do, I recommend visiting the more residential areas to get a feel of what old Hong Kong was like. Places like Sham Shui Po, Kennedy Town, West of Sai Wan Ho, northern parts of the New Territories. Everywhere else has been stripped and redeveloped to accommodate mostly to Chinese tourists as a last ditch to survive in the tourism industry.
Yeah I was in Tsim Sha Tsui which I assume feels very different now. I remember loving Sham Shui Po. My fondest memories are going out to the smaller islands on the weekend (can't remember any of their names though) and that one time getting caught outside without my keys during a pretty nasty typhoon grabbing the last MTR before they closed it down back after getting the key and seeing all the signs swinging around.
It’s really sad hearing about all of the protests there over the years since it was returned to China. And how they basically did nothing, despite so much effort. It doesn’t make me hopeful for what is going on in the US right now.
You can't really compare China and HongKong to the United States. And I'm saying this as a Chinese American.
Mainland China has been ruled by monarchies for centuries, there has never in the history of China been a democratic government. There is literally nothing better in its history to compared to. From the PoV of someone living in China, the current regime is the best its ever been, because its true. In Qing dynasty, you say one bad thing about the Emperor, and you lose your head (beheaded in public), plus maybe your close relatives too. Modern China's authoritarianism compared to that is very tame, just imprisonment, and if first offence, you might get off on a public apology.
During KMT's rule, it wasn't really democracy, just a bunch of warlords and instability. Mainland China never had what modern day Taiwan has right now, and actual functioning democracy. So you can't really cherish the concept of democracy if you never had it.
Hong Kong was under colonial rule since the Qing Dynasty lost it to the british, so any democracy they might've had would not have been viewed as legitimate by Mainland Chinese. So the protesters flying a UK flag in the Hong Kong protests or some even flew the US flag, that would just feels like colonialism / foreign interference, at least that's what China's state media would portray. That's why Mainland Chinese people would never support Hong Kongers.
The US had somewhat of the democracy for the past 250 years, and since 1965 Civil Rights movement, from that moment up to Citizens United Ruling, the US had a democracy, flawed, but still resembles a democracy. The US actually has experienced a Democracy to be cherished. The US has a much better chance of actually turning this shit around and restore democratic rule. China never even had it in the first place.
Edit: Just to give an example. Even the mindset of the people are very different. If an American cop ask for peoples identification or ask to conduct a search, you'll see many people refusing, and some of them even are Sov-Cits. If the Chinese Police asked any Chinese Citizen to identify themselves or conduct a search, you'll almost never see anyone refuse.
Sometimes I wonder if there's a parallel community of terminally online Chinese power posters who spam "Americans don't know about 9/11" all day.
I imagine it would be about the fake evidence used as justification to invade Iraq. 9/11 isn't anything remotely comparable.
(And of course, the US is not the same, as you can talk about the Bush's perjury all day long and not get arrested. Although it is similar in that you can be brown and sent into a concentration camp.)
you can talk about the Bush’s perjury all day long and not get arrested
You can talk shit on the internet to nobody in particular and not get arrested. As soon as you start getting national attention, the hammer drops.
John Kiriakou, Thomas Tamm, Lawrence Wilkerson, Teresa Chambers, and Chelsea Manning were all subject to investigation, firing, and some range of prosecution with varying results for efforts they made to expose Bush's administrative criminality.
Bro we celebrate 9/11 here in America - it made us the world victim for like 20 years. Verb, noun, 9/11. I BBQ every year. I don't think our tickle fee fees are gonna be too hurt by these chinese posters. 9/11 truthers love this.
It killed almost 1/400 Americans as the biggest recent disaster, covid.
Phrased more simply, COVID-19 was like 400 9/11s.
That's over 327!
If they hop the wall they'll see our 9/11 jokes, so no
It would be odd if you were a T.S. Elliot fan
You reminded me of this gem:
It was just suppose to be a one-off joke, but the guy ended up having to print that shirt and sell it due to overwhelming demand.
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