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How the IT guys see the users (lemmy.basedcount.com)
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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 97 points 1 year ago

If this is a situation you relate with, you might be an arrogant asshole.

I help people all the time with computer related issues, and they love that I do that. None of them give me the stink eye, and I never judge them or think they're idiots for not being specialized in general computing.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 1 year ago

I mean, you have a bit of a point, they're not exactly idiots even if they seem that way, but I definitely get the stink eye. You must know a lot of nice people.

[-] makatwork@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I relate more to the alien in the first panel, and not at all to the second.

[-] Zikeji@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

I decided to make a career change into IT (didn't stick). When I was working the other employees were just other people trying to make ends meet and I never judged them for, like you said, not being specialized in general computing. I did however judge some of the other admins for their decisions and attitudes. It was so weird being an "admin" and this being told I'm "above" the general employees.

[-] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

I used to provide some user support at a previous job. (It wasn't exactly my job, but people would ask for help.) And it'd be easy to get frustrated, thinking people were stupid or incompetent, but I'd remind myself that being good at computers isn't part of their job, it's part of my job. These people were hired for other areas of expertise. If I had to do take on parts of their jobs, I'd look stupid and incompetent too.

That said... sometimes the level of incomprehension people have really is incomprehensible to me. There's a level where you're reaching wilful ignorance. When I point at something on the screen and tell the person to click on that... and they can't or won't move the mouse there and click on it...

[-] rivalary@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

There should be a basic level of understanding a skillset when using a computer when using a computer is part of your job. Users shouldn't be required to fix technical issues but they should know the terminology (click the file menu, select properties..., or right-click on your desktop and select an option.

Its amazing how people use these tools daily but never learn how to use them. Imagine using saws, lathes, grinders, etc, but not knowing how to safely use them. It's the same for computers. If you don't know basic safety, you'll infect your work network with malware, encrypt important files with CryptoLocker-type malware, etc. Honestly, companies should force a base-level of competence before allowing users on the network, but a lot of the users causing issues are directors or the CEO.

There should be a computer license, like a driving license, that you need to get before you can operate computers connected to the internet in the modern world.

[-] Getallen@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know someone who didnt know what a taskbar was

[-] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 2 points 1 year ago

One thing that's really interesting is that general technological aptitude seems to have peaked with the millennials. A lot of employers are now complaining that gen z lack technology skills of all things.

I can absolutely believe that because personal computing went from being something where you basically have fully powered computer hardware with all the positives and negatives of that and the learning curve to being carefully sculpted and focus tested black boxes.kids aren't good with computers, they're good with facebook and YouTube.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago

A long, long time ago in an internship far, far away, I encountered a user who did not need management. He remembered his passwords without writing them down, even as they changed. He could be trusted to apply software patches himself and return the media the same day. He needed nothing more from us than a friendly hello.

It has been over six hundred million seconds since then and I have yet to encounter another user such as this.

[-] angelsomething@lemmy.one 35 points 1 year ago

If I had a penny for every time, I was told I’m a genius for helping someone with something easy, I’d probably about a fiver.

[-] painfulasterisk@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Nah, you didn't give us admin privileges. You just forced them to call you that way.

[-] dbilitated@aussie.zone 26 points 1 year ago

holy shit it's a newspaper cartoon from 1993

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Source?

(just saying, because we used CRTs in 1993, and those look like LCDs... 👽)

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago

I like the literal dinosaur in the second panel.

[-] Ew0@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago

Probably studying for a PhD.

[-] Ocelot@lemmies.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah one of these views is more valid than the other:

"I got an error message! It says, Please right click the application and select 'Run As Administrator...' What does it mean?! What do I do?!!! Why are these instructions so confusing?!"

"I got an error on the page! It says 'Password incorrect' What does that mean? How do I fix it?" "Have you tried using the correct password?"

[-] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm in the IT dept (companys conatantly flop between throwing software into engineering, IT, or its own dept) and the other day, 5 minutes before I leave for a week long vacation a user comes up and asks if we're ignoring her.

Outlook is constantly asking for a password to one of the emails she uses. She doesn't know it and keeps clicking close on the popup. So she sends an email, FROM THE ACCOUNT SHE IS LOGGED OUT OF, to helpdesk a few days earlier.

[-] jayrhacker@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Heh, now do Software Engineers and IT guys…

[-] Raze157@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Then do IT security guys vs everybody.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Just today I tried to understand the backup principle behind Veeam with my senior.
After that I (soft) bricked my head trying to visualize the GFS principle.
Lol that was fun.

But then I remembered someone imagined the whole backup cycle and not only invent it but the dev team needed have so much knowledge to not only adapt it into software but that it's considered beyond business critical software.
In Germany we have the saying "Kein Backup, kein Mitleid" (No backup, no pity) and we literally just hope the software does as it's told to do.
Even if we test backups it's crazy how we rely on it.

[-] TheSealStartedIt@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Then do software engineers with mathematicians. (I'm a software engineer, I admire mathematicians)

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 year ago

Most people are fine.

One time I had a boss receive a spreadsheet I sent, print it out, and ask the team to verify the sums by hand.

But most of the people I work with are fine.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

My current boss will print out Excel sheets and use a calculator to sum things and then write in sharpie on the page the changes that he wants me to make to the sheet.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago
[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Printer bad upvotes to the left

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Akshually they're to the right on my app.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I once asked some of my friends what they were up to at work.

An accountant friend said "I'm making a VBA macro to restructure and convert our customer's XML data into an SQL transaction so that we can import it into our accounting system".

A car mechanic friend said: "I'm trying to find the specsheet for this obscure ECU so that I can flash in this profile that I've tweaked with hex editor"

A teacher friend said: "I'm setting up integration between moodle and shopify so that we wouldn't have to enroll our students manually".

And every time my response was "YOU WHAT NOW? You should work in IT"

And they always responded with something along the lines of "Yeah, nah, I'm not that smart"

And here I am, slapping webpages and forms together, earning more than all of them combined. That's really unfair, but I'm not in a position to complain.

[-] kambusha@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago

I do feel kinda bad for people. There's very few jobs left where you don't interact with a computer in some form or another, and the reality is that it's not for everyone. Of course most people can benefit from using these "tools" but since they're always upgrading, there keeps being something new to learn.

Personally, I love technology and playing around with new tech. However, if I'm great at sales or a lawyer or something, that's where I add value, not in knowing how a computer works. So I can see how people get frustrated with it.

In the end it boils down to, pretty much everyone needs IT, but IT doesn't need everyone. Think about it, when was the last time you worked at a company where an employee didn't have a computer or need a computer for some task that they do?

[-] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 5 points 1 year ago

Some IT guys.

Sometimes users see IT guys as mordac the preventer of information technology from Dilbert. Thank you for breaking my perfectly functional workstation again.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I sent in a ticket recently, and the new IT kid's response 3 minutes later was a long the lines of "That's weird. I don't see anything about it on Google" and he marked it "resolved."

[-] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 1 points 1 year ago

My blood pressure is rising just thinking of things marked "resolved" that are STILL FRIGGIN BROKE!

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