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The Department of Homeland Security is looking to boost its deployment of the military on the streets of the U.S. in order to help carry out Donald Trump’s immigration policies, according to a leaked memo written by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s brother.

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[-] tonytins@pawb.social 147 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Usually this form of dictatorship falls pretty quickly.

[-] sidelove@lemmy.world 110 points 3 weeks ago

Wish I had your optimism. It takes work to pull the fucking grubby mitts of authoritarians out of the machine, it doesn't always happen automatically.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago

The bigger issue is that even if this does collapse quickly, the damage is largely done. Who knows how much data and accumulated years of knowledge are gone, to say nothing of all the agencies and policies that are just burnt to the ground. It took DECADES to get the EPA to even a level that was largely useful. Even if we come out the other side of this, it'll be in a radically changed form, possibly not even as the United States. I can very easily see a power vacuum and federal collapse from the fact that the federal government, aside from the actual levers of power like the judiciary and the military, is just a skeleton now.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

Frankly I could see far worse than federal collapse, as in I wouldn't be surprised if some areas devolved into city states at best. The economy is rat fucked to the point where anything coming out the other side that isn't already exceptionally robust is unlikely, which basically is a list of the Western states, North East, and the Mid West Ohio not withstanding.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

That's what the billionaires want, billionaires can own city-states.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like they're missing the fact that most of them will be wholly irrelevant if USD collapses remember most of them hold their wealth in stocks and the ones who don't have no practical way of enforcing their power. They aren't the patricians of the late Western Roman empire who were both oligarchs and generals with loyal house troops, they are closer to the Italian city state patricians chucking around mercenaries and backstabbing.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

They own enough other shit to survive a dollar collapse, they buy up everything they want on the cheap.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah how'd that work for the Romans in the East when the Visigoths, Franks, and Ostrogoths ripped apart the West and the Easts investments collapsed. You are assuming that American society holds up in any practical way, I don't think it will I think the USD will be worth only as much as it's good for toilet paper. The US economy is too weak as a whole to support itself if it faulters anytime soon, everything is top down and much like a top heavy ship itll flip and sink.

[-] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Not if they're dead.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

An actually competent government could get the EPA kicking ass, fast. It's absolutely doable. The same group that's motivated enough to fix shit would be likely to keep going and undo damage as fast or faster than it was done.

Talk about plans and options everybody.

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[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 20 points 3 weeks ago

There's still a good chance he chickens out and holds actual elections this mid season and in 3 1/2 years.

We'll find out either way.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not sure they'll matter. The only party viably able to unseat some of the Republicans right now is shit on by the right, left, and center daily. Meaning the odds that people will show up in droves during a midterm to vote for them is minimal. And when the Republicans hold the Senate, they'll get Roberts, Thomas, and Alito to retire and Trump to replace them with far right justices who owe their lifelong cushy jobs to those Republicans. So we'll have ~16 years of Republican support in the Judicial branch all but guaranteed. When 33% of the government is owned by a party, all they have to do is secure 1 half on Congress and they can prevent the country from moving left.

The last administration "led" with 50% majority control of the government. This one leads with 100% majority control. It won't be easy to come back from.

[-] Goretantath@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

And its being shit on because the repubs and their russian bot farms are pushing the narrative. We need to still vote and not give in.

[-] theolodis@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

And because democrats still vote with republicans to provide more weapons to the genocidal state if isnotreal, when they could simply use the opposition to at least look like they'd fight for what is right, even if they can't change it. But they wouldn't even drop their Zionist buddies for the show.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

So you refused to stop this already and now that the wheels are coming off your takeaway is to double-down that Democrats bad because “if isnotreal”.

Cool.

Look I don’t know what platform you’re avoiding being banned from by not saying “Israel” but this and your “Zionist buddies” language plus the Democrats-suck-lets-help-trump-some-more tells me all I need to know. Unless of course you have some plan that’s more than “shit on the Democrats”. Do you?

Yeah. That much is obvious.

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

It takes a mere handful of decades.

[-] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

This is the reality (look at Russia for those in denial).

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 85 points 3 weeks ago

The younger Hegseth was a podcast producer and social media poster for a conservative think-tank before his brother’s rise from the Fox & Friends Weekend couch to being in charge of the world’s most powerful military.

The USA is looking like a real tin-pot dictatorship these days.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

the tin-est of pots.

[-] tisktisk@piefed.social 79 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We are currently clean on OPSEC

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Its true, Pete Opsec himself said so in the chat.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

👊🇺🇲🔥

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago
[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Dude if they do that, conservatives will start bullying people for NOT being pedophiles.

By which I mean

Trump is god almighty -> What Trump does is holy -> Trump is a pedophile -> Everyone must fuck kids or otherwise they're the Antichrist and hate children.

[-] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Give children the love they deserve! Nothing says loving your child like molestation and rape!

/s for anyone that needs clarity

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[-] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes, so they can deport a total of 2 people like they did in LA. Waste of money, time, and people's lives.

[-] Kurious84@lemmings.world 43 points 3 weeks ago

These morons are trying to do an authoritarian takeover and will botch the hell out of it but doesn't negate the fact that they are trying.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

All I see is violence ahead.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 weeks ago

Will they be dressed in new uniforms with swastikas?

[-] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

US flags and unit patches will have to suffice.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Don't forget the unironic Punisher logo patches.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

Punisher skull is the swastika

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[-] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

Hugo Boss needs to build a few more sweat shops first.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago

“Due to the sensitive nature of the meeting, minimal written policy or background information can be provided in this briefing memo,” the memo says.

Asked for clarification of the memo’s intentions, DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughin declined comment. The New Republic obtained it on the condition that we refrain from posting the original document, so we posted much of the text of it here. We omitted some logistical and biographical details.

https://newrepublic.com/article/198708/trump-military-anti-immigration-dhs-leaked-memo

[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

We didn't need a leak to know this, but I guess it's nice to have confirmation. It was clear from the start that this was part of the plan.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Good thing I have trimmed down my holdings on American stocks.

I hope time proves me wrong, but USA having a violent turmoil is coming.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Doing the Afghan Occupation in NYC, LA, and Chicago.

[-] bigfondue@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

The Imperial Boomerang always comes back to you

[-] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

It's a civil war.

[-] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, Mr. Leakseth, what a gift to America.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

This is the level of transparency politicians should strive for. The contents of the policies not so much.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Boomerang came back around and knocked us the fuck out.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Will the troops start to goose step? Which version, Russian or German?

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