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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 179 points 2 months ago

Let's cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we're too lazy to photoshop! What's not to like? More fossil fueled plagiarized bullshit so I don't have to think please!

Edit: Looks like I struck a nerve with some people who are, similarly to "AI", confidently incorrect about a few things. I'm not even saying LLM can't be used for good, it has, but I am saying that it is being used for a lot of bad shit and it's being powered by a lot of bad shit on top of that.

Think about that before you start hyping "AI" and attacking anyone who criticizes it because there's some valid criticisms that are very dangerous to ignore.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago

Thanks for providing an example

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 73 points 2 months ago

So sorry for criticizing AI for very serious problems that will affect me in my lifetime along with everyone I care about. What a piece of shit I am, please forgive me! AI is totally great and has no problems at all!

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

That's not what the post is about? How do you know I don't agree with you? This post is about people, not AI.

[-] carotte 13 points 2 months ago

AI only exacerbates an existing problem with tech; AI datacenters pollute and consume because datacenters pollute and consume

a lot of things many people do online, including watching videos or playing online games, are super polluting. yet no one talks about this

you don’t care about the environment, you care about AI

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 23 points 2 months ago

Wildly presumptive and incorrect statement about me, but you are right about data centers.

On that note, it's worth pointing out that some fediverse instances are powered by renewables! It's small compared to the Internet at large, but it's a start.

[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Yesterday I saw a guy attacked on fuck_ai because he wasn't extreme enough with his anti ai attitude.

I commented to him, only said I thought that his comment was valid and got promptly deleted.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Yeah, the church of anti-AI is loud, obnoxious, and obstinate.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 52 points 2 months ago

[slopping intensifies]

People hyping "AI" are the ones that seem like cultists to me. It's not even artificial intelligence, they're misusing the term to make money. They rebadged LLM.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

There are extremist on both sides. But at least the anti-AI group has environmental responsibility on their side.

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[-] Trincapinones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 months ago

"AI" is not just LLMs or diffusion models, and that's what I think OPs is about, like, do you also hate Stockfish? Or enemies in a videogame?

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You're correct in a technical sense but incorrect in a social sense. In 2025, "AI" in the common vernacular means LLMs. You can huff and puff about it, and about how there are plenty of non-LLM AIs out there. But you might as well complain that people mean silicon-based Turing-complete machines when they refer to a "computer," even though technically a computer can mean many other things. You might as well be complaining about how a computer could refer to someone that does calculations by hand for a living. Or you could refer to something like Babbage's difference engine as a computer. There are many things that can technically fall under the category of "computer." But you know damn well what people are saying when they describe a computer. And hell, in common vernacular, a smart phone isn't even a "computer," even though it literally is just a computer. Words have both technical and vernacular meanings.

In 2025, in the language real speak in the real world, "AI" is a synonym for "LLM."

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[-] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

I hate stockfish because it keeps beating me >:(

[-] kn33@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Also, some things are called AI that aren't. People are freaking out as soon as the term is mentioned without checking if it's actually some sort of model or if it's just a basic algorithm with a buzzword tossed on.

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[-] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 24 points 2 months ago

You can run AI off of renewable energies too. This isn't an issue of AI. It's an issue of capitalism.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 46 points 2 months ago

You could do a lot of things, but that's not what is happening so here we are!

Also, to be clear, "AI" is just a marketing term for LLM. You're describing it as a capitalism problem but it's a product of capitalism and they're using it to make more money for themselves while it uses things people created as source material with the power of fossil fuel.

That is pretty fucked up.

Sure, it could be powered by renewables and it could be used to benefit humanity, but could doesn't count for shit when it's also being powered by fossil fuels and used to manipulate and even kill people.

Could and are: Two very different things.

[-] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 21 points 2 months ago

Could is what should be. That is what we also should act according towards.

Instead of attacking symptoms, attack the root cause. Which still is capitalism. Corpos will use energy that damages the environment because they will seek the most profits and least expenses under a market economy.

LLMs and AI would still be developed under any other system. Capitalism doesn't invent things, all it invents are ways to commodify things.

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[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Let's cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we're too lazy to photoshop!

Decided to look into it, and a loose estimate (it's hard to find data on the power usage of photoshop) is that 1 minute of photoshop average is about 1 gen image at 4k output.

Which means depending on use case and experience, an AI spun up locally to make something quickly would use far less electricity

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[-] svcg 106 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

ITT: exactly what the tweet was about. (Edit: It was a tumblr post.)

Y'all just saw "AI" and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

Exactly, it's downright comical how well OP called it.

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Aren't you OP? Also, people currently understand "AI" (a marketing term) as "LLMs" and audiovisual producing software. Had you mentioned it in the late 90s, it would've been more about "The Matrix" kind of sci-fi AI, for instance, and before it would've referred to Cameron's Terminators or Herbert's "machine intelligence". Words and their context. You're being purposefully obtuse because people here wrote thoughtful comments disagreeing with the premise in the image you posted (and apparently agree with) and you don't like it as it makes you feel silly. That's all.

[-] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

OP in this case would be the Tumblr user sexygaywizard who made the post in the image

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[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

But tbf 'AI' in current public discourse and pop culture is (annoyingly) used synonymously with 'LLM' more often than not

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[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 76 points 2 months ago

I will stop freaking out when they will stop trying to shove it down my throat all the time

[-] Denjin@feddit.uk 20 points 2 months ago

That's what she said!

^I'm sorry^

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[-] LaggySnake@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

ai or pronouns

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 65 points 2 months ago

Pretty insulting comparison, tbh.

Pronouns: Expanding language to communicate the humanity of other people.

AI: Distilling language to package human communication as a sellable product.

[-] prole 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One of the most insidious things that has happened over the past few decades is this overarching narrative that the left and right are equally evil and two sides of the same coin. That they are in any way comparable.

It has poisoned literally every aspect of life.

"The left went too far with 'woke', but that doesn't mean we need to go too far in the other direction!"

No. fuck that. Wanting basic human dignity for all people is not comparable to fascism. It's insane that this even needs to be said.

It's fucking baked into everything at this point. It is inescapable. I fucking hate it.

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[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 months ago

It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.

Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.

AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.

To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:

Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.

Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.

[-] jimjam5@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Yes, it’s totally okay starve millions of homes of water and jack up their utility bills to be able to summarize articles and write emails. (/s)

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[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I will stop freaking out when naive techbro men stop the ecological mass murder and environmental destruction that they supposedly NEED to do to sustain their shitty knockoff of a religion/cult.

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 56 points 2 months ago

Move over gamers, AI shills are the most discriminated group now!

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It has been my experience that things go the other way around. Usually people read the text (or programming script), see that it's nonsense and ask, "Is this fucking AI? Cause I really hope no one is actually this stupid."

And then they get annoyed that someone is cooking the planet using AI instead of their brain.

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[-] s@piefed.world 35 points 2 months ago

Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS. If you’re using computer technology to scan bodies for possible early cancer symptoms, for example, then you should have a professional look over the computer’s results and you shouldn’t use the marketing terms that are used for churning out brainless media content.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

If I'm seeing the word "AI" outside of academic research or shitposting, it's almost certainly coming from a Techbro or techbro simp.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Fuck ai and fuck ai simps.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

I have no idea what point you’re trying to get across but I just got back from shopping for a laptop for my college kid and pretty much all of them had a slop button

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

If you are still looking https://frame.work/ I didn't see any ai slop button on these.

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[-] RedStrider@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

i saw someone on masto mad about the new background removal thing added to kdenlive

i despise llms and image models for quite a number of reasons but just aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Pretty sus how much pro-AI slop is suddenly on lemmy right as GPT5 is about to be launched.

Be less fucking obvious, you dipshits.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago

amazing example of the person described in the post!

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The pronouns of LLMs are typically “useless/drivel”

[-] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

I am definetly guilty even tho i should start judging after knowing if its useful ai or gen ai

[-] audaxdreik@pawb.social 26 points 2 months ago

I really don't think there is any useful generative or general AI.

So a lot of the issue is how marketing got their slimy tentacles around the word, but most "useful" AI is domain specific, symbolic ML (machine learning). Even LLMs have their uses in very specific domains, but again, general usage is very questionable.

People are already somewhat familiar with ML, but that's been kind of covered by the catch all term "algorithm". What most people understand as "the" algorithm (YouTube, Twitter, whatever) isn't a single algorithm, but a complex set of algorithms often at least partly compromised of some sort of ML.

All that to say, the general public really doesn't need to know this stuff and the serious engineers couldn't care less of our opinion of it. Fuck AI.

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[-] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Outside of the privacy and environmental issues at this point AI isn't a fleshed out product yet it's being pushed into apps that don't need it. I think AI development needs to continue, and the public needs to use it and apply it in was it likely wasn't intended for but it needs to be opt in.

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