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[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 156 points 3 days ago

I love Trey and Matt but the feud is so enormously stupid.

Family guys stupid gags are dumb and lazy writing, but also quite often fucking hilarious. I'm a guy sitting on my couch watching adult cartoons, I'm not exploring the depth of good writing I'm covered in Dorito crumbs and looking for a good laugh.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 146 points 3 days ago

I'm not even sure it's a real feud. It's two comedy shows making fun of each other. That's hardly a fight.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

I hope they all get baked together and laugh at the flame wars.

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 12 points 2 days ago

When they put a Starbucks across the street from a Dunkin Donuts, they both perform better

[-] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

But the independent cafe is fucked...

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago
[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 21 points 3 days ago
[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago
[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

I wish there was a gif of him in bed with Satan saying that

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I know, doesn't seem to be, yet.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 3 days ago

We need the new version of this gif!

[-] HereIAm@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

That sounds more like a joke to me than them being serious. Like, I'm sure they do have those feelings at some level, but not enough to vent in an interview. But I'm pretty clueless with the behind the scenes of these shows, maybe that is all they think of Family Guy?

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 41 points 3 days ago

I'm covered in Dorito crumbs and looking for a good laugh

Stealing this for my Tinder profile.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

90% of the stuff on South Park is also dumb and stupid. It's just they occasionally get a chance to make political commentary that their audience won't hate them for, so they go whole hog on it.

[-] KitKatKitCat@piefed.social 21 points 3 days ago

Occasionally? I'd argue they've been making social and political commentary since the shows inception tbh.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Yes, they've been making commentary, but most of the time it's "Isn't this person dumb? What a dumb person. We should make fun of this dumb person." Occasionally it's people like Trump. Occasionally it's people like Al Gore, and then climate change becomes a joke for twenty years until they make a quiet retraction no one pays attention to. Or it's Paris Hilton or Ben Affleck and it's little more than petty celebrity gossip.

Eh, they did do an episode taking on scientology. That takes guts, because those guys are litigious as fuck. I haven't seen any other show attempt to take them on and I imagine South Park's episode about them provided a lot of insight for people who didn't know just how bizarre their beliefs are.

On the other hand, you're not wrong about them straight-up calling some people "dumb." Their episode explaining Mormons literally sings, "Dumb, dumb, dumb" throughout the story. Yet even that episode was honest - Joseph Smith did claim to use a seerstone in his hat to read off golden plates. (Apparently there was a treasure-hunting fad going on at the time, where people used "seerstones" to try to find hidden things. Joseph Smith already had experience with that, and he scryed for treasure the same way he "read" the golden plates - by putting the stones in his hat and attempting to see through them.) They were also right about Lucy Harris and how Joseph Smith reacted to her. Athough Matt and Trey inserted their opinions through a voiceover song, they told a pretty accurate, educational story.

They do occasionally miss the target terribly (those earlier global warming denials frickin' hurt), but they mock a lot of celebrities for more than being "a dumb person." Kanye's mocked for his massive ego. Bono's mocked because the creators think he's a hypocrite. George Lucas and Steven Spielburg were portrayed raping a storm trooper, as a clear metaphor for how Matt and Trey thought they were violating and destroying their own work.

I don't agree with some of their accessments and choices, but they do tend to attack a lot of other characteristics than just "dumbness."

[-] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

I think you’re missing the forest for the trees, pal.

[-] otacon239@lemmy.world 111 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Seth MacFarlane gets crap for his writing style, but I’m totally a sucker for it. I especially enjoy when he’s on screen. 1000 Ways to Die in the West and The Orville are amazing works from him that I thoroughly enjoy. I really wish he did more live action work.

The Orville is legit just a good sci fi show, but then it's also funny and endearing on top of that. Love it.

Imo, orvile was the best star trek series since DS9 and only "strange new worlds" which they only did due to the success of Orvile has surpassed it. I'm genuinely staggered by how well he did with it.

[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

i like the Orville but 1000 ways to die is among the worst theatrical comedies of the past decade

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Favourite Western after Planet of the Apes

[-] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Where does Blazing Saddles fit in? That's one worth watching, too.

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Yes I am agree

[-] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

Does he get crap fornhis writing style in general? I thought it was jut Family Guy, with stories that keep getting interrupted by cutaway gags all the time

[-] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 27 points 3 days ago

I felt like Orville succeeded despite him. I think he's okay but I’ve seen him play himself a thousand times before and idc anymore. If he's writing for it, it’s still good and I really think the rest of the cast is what kept me coming back. #teamgordon

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

The Orville felt like he wanted to actually make a star trek the next generation clone, and Fox wanted the family guy in space. Because I feel like season 2 really got it. And then fox canned it.

[-] WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

100%. Season 2 was peak Orville. Season 3 did not feel as good to me, though.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

i mean the show would literally not exist without him.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

I've never really enjoyed his style of humor, but his dramatic writing is great. The Orville is at its best in its more serious moments and I usually feel like I have to tolerate the comedic elements to get to the good parts.

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The article claims that S8e3 was a response to South Park Manatees but I just rewatched the scene and it's nothing of the sort.

The author claimed that Peter's Family guy humour got more laughs than Quagmire's South Park humor during a Stand Up comic scene.

But that didn't happen! Quagmire introduced the improv show and Peter got laughs with his typical stupidity.

I suspect AI fuckery in the article.

[-] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago

Is it worth checking out the South Park episodes?

They had some really funny episodes in the 2000s. Don't think I've seen anything more recent except for one or two episodes.

Outside of that, a lot of their political commentary felt like word salad from regressive provincial Americans.

[-] otterpop@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

They basically revived their early 2000s style with this in my opinion, I'd say it's worth watching just to see if you like it

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

What the hell is a "provincial American"?

[-] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago

You don't know the meaning of the word provincial or do you mean you've never encountered it in this context?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Of or relating to a province.

Yeah as I thought. Given that America has no providences, my question was more than fair.

[-] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's not how you use the term. Provincial as an adjective isn't solely tied to geographic distribution in counties that formally use provinces as a regional government form.

I explained what I meant in other reply.

I honestly thought you know what I meant and were trying to discuss something else entirely. Sorry about that.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I appreciate you explaining. Sorry for assuming you were being condescending.

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Given that America has no providences

I think they believe in Providence?

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[-] melisdrawing@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

I would recommend them unless you are likely to be offended by your beliefs being ridiculed. South Park really loves to make fun of EVERYONE for whom have a good enough premise. Some people really don't have beliefs strong enough for scrutiny and get upset. If you can laugh at yourself in general, you will probably enjoy Southpark.

[-] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

I've watched South Park before, mostly stuff from the 90s and 2000s. Some episodes are really funny and well made. It's rare that I remember an episode name for series, but "Scott Tenorman Must Die" is an all time classic.

I eventually tuned out (other than occasional episodes) and as it got a bit samey and IMO they always had a lot of filler/badly made episodes (even in the 90s/2000s). Trying too hard to be edgy.

I was just curious about their most recent output. I am going to check it out. Another user mentioned that if they felt their recent output was closer to earlier stuff from the 90s and 2000s.

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