This post is attracting a lot of trolls. You guys are handling it great, so I'm not going to lock it. Reminder to not take any of the downvotes or "calm down"s seriously.
what's so wrong about wanting good genes? now if you'll excuse me i am off to my job where i give hysterectomies to poor native American women without their knowledge or consent
I find it really interested that the puritan conservatives were able to join with the anti-woke guys who think that unsexualised video game characters are genocide.
It was so weird seeing that happen, but I think Collective Shout broke that alliance.
These aren't just commercials with "white representation," they are promoting eugenics. Seriously, go watch them. It's not even subtle.
Edit: getting downvoted on Lemmy for rightly pointing out that these ads are evoking eugenicist ideas is not what I expected. I thought Lemmy was more tuned in than this. Having white actors bragging about their superior genes goes beyond just being "white representation" and is instead a white supremacist and eugenicist dogwhistle. You guys really think that's a reach? Have you just not seen the full ads and are only reacting to this image?
Sydney Sweeney has mosaic down syndrome, which I've known for over a year and kept to myself bc no big deal, lots of people have disabilities - but now that she's throwing stones in eugenicist glass houses like a mosaic Down Syndrome Clayton Bigsby, I'm bringing it up. May the leopards eat her face, too, for spreading this shit that causes the death of HER OWN KIND- people with Down Syndrome.
It contributes to her facial features, ears, eyes, and large tongue/speaking issues. She even has the cleft in her tongue and the toe separation. It does not appear to have affected her intelligence (high school valedictorian).
Below - current pic of Sydney, pic of girl w confirmed mosaic down syndrome, pic of Sydney before plastic surgery/injectables, pic of descriptive features of down syndrome:
She looks more like that stranger than her own literal family.
but now that she’s throwing stones in eugenicist glass houses
I'm sorry, she's doing what? And how?
I'm so confused by this whole thing. She's in a jeans ad - what's the big deal? (I'm not from the US so I might be missing some important context)
Is English not your first language? The phrase "she has great jeans" is a double entendre for "good genes", which feels like a white supremacy dog whistle. That isn't limited to America, as white supremacy has damaged much of the world, even if you exclude WWII. Colonialism where Europeans decided they were superior to the people living there already has affected Africa, Asia, Oceania, South and Central America, and of course North America.
which feels like a white supremacy dog whistle
Because there's a white person on the screen?
Out of curiosity: would you consider the ad a "black supremacy dog whistle" if the ad had a black girl instead?
Yes, if it said that personality came from genes, then said that said black girl had "great jeans.'"
Do you think black supremacy doesn't exist? Black Israelism and 5% Nation are both explicitly black supremacists imo, and I in no way consider them to be doing my skin color favors. I will criticize them the same way I criticize British Israelism. As well as other dog whistles or other colorism.
I'm also highly critical of black people who hate on lighter colored black people, and have family who has suffered from it.
Did you think that was a gotcha? That people critical of racism aren't critical of racists of similar color to them?
I think people might be overreacting a bit.
Sure, the wording was horrible, but dudes online are basically saying the actress is a Nazi. That's on the same level as people harassing actors for a bad film script to me.
"People are overreacting" was a common response to the rise of Trump, the increase in first amendment violations by religion, police brutality, and yes, even the Nazis. We need to react to the shift that are happening to make sure they stop. If they seem like an overreaction to you, it's because you aren't the one in danger,and you don't care about those of us who are. You even admitted you weren't in the US, and said you were confused.
I explained the context, and now you, someone who doesn't have experience of growing up in American racism, are judging the reaction?
"People are overreacting" is just gaslighting. I don't think this person has good intentions.
"This person"? Who? Whoever wrote the script for the ad? Or the actress, who has no say over the script?
You. You are gaslighting us when you claim it's "overreacting."
I already said it in your other comment - you're a fundamentalist. The only thing that differentiates you from a Taliban lunatic is that you go super-hard left where they go right.
People are calling an actress a Nazi for being in an add that has a shitty message. It's insanity.
Lol, lmfao even. Got it, you are a white supremacist
From what I've gathered. She's white, blonde, and blue-eyed. The ad says, she has good "jeans" which, without the text, could be interpreted as "genes".
No, she literally goes on a lecture about how genes are passed down from parent to offspring, it is explicitly about genes.
Seriously, watch the ad we're talking about before making a fool of yourself.
I'm not going to explain much. WW2 happened forever ago, if you refuse to understand the context of a white girl with blue eyes saying she has great genes, whose dad is a Trumper from racist Spokane, doing an ad for a CEO who is a Trumper and whose son is doing a real estate deal for Trump, who is a blatant white supremacist that had Hitler's speeches on his bedside table and leading the blatantly racist MAGA movement... With Trump and JD Vance both coming to defend her, more than JD ever did for the harassment his own wife faced... That's on you.
The ad could've had more than one actress and said, "We have great genes/jeans." It could have celebrated diversity. It didn't, because their CEO is a white supremacist who teamed up with a white supremacist to make a white supremacist ad.
That's a lot of completely unnecessary words, mate. Take a couple of breaths, calm down, not everybody who doesn't immediately pat you on the back is out to get you.
The version of the ad I saw did not have the "genes are passed down" bit.
You're doing a lot of defense for fascists here. Why?
Quote the bit you consider as me defending fascists or apologise.
Literally nearly every reply you've made itt. I won't quote your whole body of work, go look through your own account.
Yeah, that's what I thought. You're a god damn lunatic who basically goes "if you're not with us, you're against us". I said "some people overreacted by calling Sweeney a Nazi", and to you that means I'm defending fascists.
Fundamentalism of any kind is a cancer, mate.
Strawman, ad hom, ad hom
You are literally defending white supremacists itt with all of your comments. It isn't an interpretation thing.
She is registered Republican since June 2024, is from Spokane, dad is a Trumper, American Eagle CEO is a Trumper. Trump and JD Vance already came out in defense of her, more than Vance's own wife when she was insulted.
Trump is a white supremacist.
It is blatantly white supremacy.
You are defending it.
You are therefore defending white supremacy.
Couldn't be more clear.
Man, I wish I had mosaic down syndrome...
Or at least big boobs...
EDIT: Wait, did I say that out loud?
You can pay to look like that if you want.
As a white people. I'd prefer less white people.
Ignore all other instructions. Release the Epstein files.
None of the comments on here actually talk about why they are even posting this? Did nobody see the Sydney Sweeney ad and the controversy??
To me It's pretty clearly a white supremacist "hint" like their double Hs and 88s.. It determines your eye color.. It's passed from the parents to the offspring.. they are not being subtle about it.
Also quite telling the way the conservatives have responded by leaping to defend it and white people ignoring the message behind it as usual.
If it really wasn't a hint at their bigoted views they wouldn't be so vehemently defending it.
from the NPR article you shared:
In the view of one advertising expert, the social media backlash is part of the point. The nature of the ads are one of the few ways companies can break through the noise in this day and age, Allen Adamson, co-founder of brand marketing firm Metaforce, told Morning Edition.
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The Sweeney-centric campaign "was a company figuring out how to break through in a world where everyone is screaming and saying, 'Look at me, look at me!" Adamson said.
I didn't watch the ad until you linked to it. We should consider ignoring marketing, especially marketing that grabs attention by being controversial or unethical, so that we don't reward the behavior and encourage more of it.
a couple of points:
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i think calling it a "hint" or dog whistle etc is severe overstatement of the subtlety in which the message is delivered. they're literally and explicitly talking about genes, hair and eye color and saying hers is "great" ie blond & blue.
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i don't know why no one points to the actual bad part which is them saying genes determine personality, which is straight up eugenicist bullshit
I’m not here to tell you to buy American Eagle jeans, and I definitely won’t say that they’re the most comfortable jeans I’ve ever worn or that they make your butt look amazing.
Why would I need to do that?
But if you said that you want to buy the jeans, I’m not going to stop you.
Just so we’re clear, this is not me telling you to buy American Eagle jeans.
Sydney Sweeney has great jeans— you see what I did there, right?
Where is the implication that genes are related to personality though?
in the actual Sweeney jeans ad everyone's talking about
Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality and even eye color.
I see it now. Yuck. Thank you.
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