28
submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by mlegstrong@sh.itjust.works to c/dadforaminute@lemmy.world

Hi Dad, this is hard for me to say, & I know it might be hard for you to hear, but I hate myself. I don’t like the person I’ve grown into, & it’s not because of anything you did wrong in fact, it’s the opposite. You gave me a good childhood. You were present, supportive, & loving. You helped me through school, college, my relationship, & advice for getting a good job. On paper I am doing well but I don’t feel that way. I tried to do everything right but I still can’t shake the hate I have for myself. That hatred that used to motivate me now just a heavy weight. I’m so quick to give up. I feel tired all the time, like I’m running on empty, even when I’m doing nothing. And the worst part is I can’t seem to push through it, even when I know something might make me feel better, I don’t have the energy or will. I just feel stuck doing things I don’t really enjoy since they don’t require any energy to do. I hate that part of me. For me, when things get hard, I now stall & I hate that about myself. I guess I’m reaching out because I want to understand how you’ve kept going. How have you always gotten up when you’ve felt miserable. I feel like you gave me so much potential & I’ve squandered it.

top 14 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Hi Dad, this is hard for me to say, & I know it might be hard for you to hear, but I hate myself. I don’t like the person I’ve grown into

I don't know if you learned it from me or your mother, but with this one sentence you're exhibiting one of the most important parts about being a good man: Introspection.

Without this, someone might take another 20 or 30 years to arrive at this same place after making an absolute mess of their lives, yet here you are now knowing something is wrong and being brave enough to say it out loud. If nothing else, know that whatever else is going on you did this, and you have this as part of your character. Be proud of that, as I am of you.

On paper I am doing well but I don’t feel that way. I tried to do everything right but I still can’t shake the hate I have for myself.

Who wrote the metaphorical "paper" you're looking at? It might have been me when I told you what was important. It might have been society. Keep in mind, none of us know for sure. We do the best with what we have and we make mistakes. Sometimes society does it not for your own good but for its. Take a hard look at that "paper" and see for yourself if the things I told you were important are actually important to you. Cross out the things that don't matter to you. Write in the things on your own that do matter to you. Now, how different is the "paper"? How far off are you right now from what your new version of the "paper" says? That could be a path to your own personal fulfillment.

For me, when things get hard, I now stall & I hate that about myself. I guess I’m reaching out because I want to understand how you’ve kept going. How have you always gotten up when you’ve felt miserable.

I've been there too, certainly! In this I think we're each a little different, so I am happy to share what works for me, but don't get discouraged if it isn't what motivates you. What we start with is some wisdom of the ancients. In ancient Greece on the temple of Apollo was inscribed a saying "Gnothi seauton": Know thyself

This is perhaps the most important thing in your entire life. You need to know who you are, what your goals are, what trips you up, what drives you, etc. The more you know the more you can create situations for yourself to be successful (in however you yourself define success). A simple example would be, if you know you have a problem with alcohol, you simply never allow yourself to consume it. More nuanced are measuring your appetites or levels of patience and know when you're getting close to your limits.

Lets take the example you gave where "things get hard and you give up" of what I do in that situation knowing myself . Your doing your thing, moving forward, with regular progress and speed. Suddenly you hit a hard part! You push with all your might at the same speed you were before and can't move forward.

  • First, I recognize the same speed and things I was doing before don't work for this part. I forgive myself. I don't get discouraged. It's okay, we've got other tools in the toolbox.
  • Second, I'll take a step back and look at this hard part. What I want to do is break it down into smaller pieces. Still too hard? Break it down further. Keep doing that until you've got small enough pieces that you can start taking a step forward again.
  • Third, recognize that you may need help. No man is an island, and the best of us know when to shoot up a flair and reach out to those around us that can help.

How have you always gotten up when you’ve felt miserable.

For me, I know that if I exhaust my patience on something, I need to do something I enjoy for a short period, and I can recharge my attention/patience for a few more minutes. So for some things I go back and forth at 10 or 15 minute intervals. The work, the play, the work, the play. Does it mean the task takes longer? Absolutely. At the end of the day do I still make forward progress on the task? I do. The alternative is I keep trying to force myself with zero attention/patience left and never get anything done on it at the end of the day. I know this. I've seen me do it. Again, this is me. I don't know if your plumbing is the same as mine, so make a study of yourself and "know thyself" and what you need to do for you.

Lastly, part of reaching out for help may be medical. We're just walking bags of water and chemicals. We're not built perfect and lots of things can throw us out of balance temporarily or even permanently. Don't dismiss that your chemicals could be off. This could be something like an organ misbehavior like a thyroid issue or even brain chemistry. Some things are impossible to address by yourself. There's no shame in reaching out, and in fact its strength.

I hope this helps you.

I feel like you gave me so much potential & I’ve squandered it.

Don't mistake what "potential" is. Potential are pathways you can take. I gave you as many as I could because I didn't and couldn't know which ones you would want to take. Many are mutually exclusive. As a parent, we give you weapons and armor to go out as an adult and battle "life". You received a two handed sword as well as a spear. You literally cannot use both, but I wanted you to decide which one was right for you. Following one means abandoning the other. I knew that going it, and am not upset at things you didn't choose to do. I just hope I gave you enough, and from how you talk of it, I think I did, so thank you, son. Part of you being you is choosing which of the potentials you have available to you that you select and move forward with. I have zero expectation you're going to use them all, its physically impossible so don't think you had to!

Know that whatever path you take, I'll always love you. What will always make me proud is seeing you make your choices and turning into the man that you are today and the one you will be tomorrow.

[-] notabot@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

Not OP, but that is an excellent post. OP, when you read this take some time to really understand and appreciate it.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

Son, this sounds an awful lot like burnout. Have you thought about consulting a therapist, or talking to your doctor about?

Don't let it go on forever without getting help, it's only going to make it worse!

[-] mlegstrong@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

I started seeing a therapist a month. I’ve never really talk about how I feel & don’t understand what to say when we meet. I feel like I’m wasting time each session. Everyone says they help but I don’t even understand how.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

You should tell your therapist just that. Some therapists draw out your problems. Some let them spill out. Being a bit raw and vulnerable with your therapist is needed for growth. And maybe your therapist isn't a good fit. Either way, they're there for you. Not the other way 'round.

Going to a therapist is a huge step in trying to better yourself and your circumstances. Good job in doing that.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

To add to what the other dad said. Not every therapist is going to be a good fit. First follow the rest of the advice they gave you, it's good advice, but if it doesn't click with this particular therapist, don't hesitate to seek out another one who would be a better fit.

[-] mlegstrong@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

I’m just worried if I switch the effort of starting back up will be too much & it will be easier to just stop going. Is this normal to feel this way?

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 6 points 4 days ago

Brother, just wanna let you know I am here, too. We aren't alone. And honestly, one thing to consider is it's not all us. Modern society is more complex and detached than any time in our history. Is it a wonder we don't feel stable or like nothing we do matters?

When you take a step back and look at things from the perspective of say, an alien, it can make how you feel make so much more sense. It is very difficult to both fulfill society's current demands of us and feel fulfilled and worth something at the same time.

Reading these replies for whatever wisdom I can grab, too. 👍

[-] MercuryGenisus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Before I went on medication I had a lot of mental issues. I still do. They are just manageable now. I think a lot about how normal everything felt looking back on my behavior and feelings. To this day I understand intellectually how I used to struggle, but emotionally I feel like nothing has really changed. But everything changed. I am in such a better place now. It's still hard sometimes, but I am lucky to be where I am now. I know how easy it would have been to stay in that place.

I never felt like I needed medical help. I went because those close to me thought it was a good idea. It was life changing.

I'm not saying your situation is the same as mine, but I understand. I would recommend talking to a psychologist. I never thought it would change anything. I'm so grateful to have been wrong.

[-] mlegstrong@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Can I ask how you managed to get started with getting help? I feel like it’s such a massive hill to get over to start.

[-] MercuryGenisus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Starting was both very hard and very easy. I had help from my partner, but when they would suggest things I would get defensive, even offended sometimes. I remember feeling hurt that they were pushing my problems onto someone else instead of helping me. In retrospect it was how they could help me, but at the time everything was so twisted up.

Eventually I just went along with things. Once I stopped fighting it, everything was easy. Because of weird insurance stuff I needed a referral before I could see someone. I didn't have a regular doctor. We just walked into an urgent care and said "I'm depressed and I need a referral to a psychologist." Within half an hour we had what we needed, paid our copay, and left. We set up an appointment with the doctor and just showed up together. Thankfully the hill I had to climb was of my own making. It usually is.

Once I was okay with going, everything was painless and quick from there. Things started improving, I started feeling things getting better, it was easier to stick with it.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

Fucking brains, they can suck. That's depression. I've dealt with it my whole life, and only just recently got to a level where I'm pretty okay most of the time. For me, what ended up being effective was therapy, finally getting and staying on medication.

I don't want you to have to deal with this for the decades I did. Find a doctor. Start with your GP if you need to. It's going to be hard to find mental health care, and even when you do, it's going to be hard to keep them on your case. The first, or second, or third person you find might not be the one for you. They might just stop returning your calls.

Once you do get the right person, it's probably going to get worse before it gets better. You need to talk and think through your issues; they're going to guide you through that process and prompt you as appropriate. This is addressing your most difficult troubles, shit you've been avoiding. Not any fun at all, but necessary.

Something you can do right now is recognizing thought processes you don't want, and consciously correcting yourself. Example: I was raised to be fairly racist. In my early 20s, I finally decided I didn't want that for myself anymore. So when I found myself thinking things about passers-by that I recognized were leftover from my childhood, I purposefully reminded myself - sometimes out loud - "That's a person just like I am, doing person things, just like I am." I know this sounds like Stuart Smalley "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me", but I am telling you that it can work. It's effort, and it means you have to actually address those unwanted thoughts right in the moment, but please try it.

[-] lath@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

Buddy, I'll be honest. It's you. Watching you grow up, seeing you do your best to keep going even in the hardest of times, well, it keeps me going too.

We ain't born to do everything ourselves, kid. Don't realize most of the time, but we depend on having someone to share the moments with. Be they for better or worse.

Now I'm not telling you to get a kid of your own, though that is the conclusion most people come to naturally. Which is probably why so many unhappy marriages think a pregnancy will solve every problem... It won't.

Anyway, I just want you to know that when the going gets tough, it becomes less about loving yourself and more about having someone or something you love more.
I mean, every time you've looked at me and thought "he's way too into this" it's because I was. Whenever my own disappointment with myself hits, I know I'll be alright because I have happiness to fill the void with. And you're a very big piece of happiness!

Listen kid. It might seem cliche to say this, but life isn't perfect. There will always be challenges ahead and you will more or less always want to do better. There's no simple solution to this and i can't give you a better answer.
For me, love works. I kept with it and it kept with me. I know it won't last forever and yet I cherish every moment of happiness it's given me and will keep giving me. And every time I come face to face with my regrets, though they weaken my resolve, it's been love that got me through it every time.
Who knows? It might do the same for you.

PS: I want a grandkid. Eventually.

[-] greengnu@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

You are a good kid but you never learned to take it easy on yourself.

You need to let go of being perfect or playing the role that is not yours.

You need to stop trying to be someone that you are not (it gets tiring fast and it sounds like you did it to the point of burnout) and just let yourself be yourself (ideally with a bunch of rest and time to recover).

When I hit a similar problem when I was your age, I embraced minimalism (literally everything I had could fit in the back seat of my car) and lived off rice, beans, and spices in an apartment I shared rent with 5 friends for about a year. After which, I moved in with your mom prior to getting married to her. That simplicity gave me time to process my emotions and that restrictive budget gave me a huge runway to tell my boss to go fuck himself and not have to have the stress of worrying about money for a couple months while I found a much healthier work environment.

this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2025
28 points (100.0% liked)

Dad for a Minute

662 readers
2 users here now

If you need a dad figure for help, encouragement or just a hug this is the right community for you.

Twin communities you might be interested in

Rules No hate speech, discrimination, insults. Just be a nice internet user.

founded 9 months ago
MODERATORS