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[-] krigo666@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago

And that is called fascism.

[-] Chev@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Not because of a lack of rules and guidelines?

[-] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The app is a PsyOP by ICE to deport more Immigrants, and this whole stunt might as well be a part of it

The GrapheneOS team already did a great disection of this iOS only app and why it is not anonyme at all (+ that they are fucking lying about Aosp and encouraging People to buy a phone known for spying on them

Therefore, its extremely easy to guess that at some point the US is going to Apple HQ with a court order to disclose everyone who downloaded the app, since, once again, iOSs App store discloses such things to Apple.

https://bsky.app/profile/grapheneos.org/post/3lt2prfb2vk2r

Link to GrapheneOSs Payback

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago

It was quite obvious from the start to any technical person, that iceblock was a terrible idea. Sadly hype generally doesnt follow the recommendations of well meaning IT people.

[-] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

At least we have more content for c/leopardsatemyface

But on a more serious note, as long as people dont learn the basics such as „Youtube ad“ and „privacy“ in the same sentence are a honeypot and that you cant have privacy if your Root device itself is the threat youre trying to hide from, it is never going to change

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

On the other hand, if you set up a botnet to spam that service and get millions of people to sign up from everywhere, that data quickly becomes more useless. You can't use it to target dissidents if everyone is a dissident.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 week ago

You understand they’re going to keep doing this until you stop them, right?

[-] hovercat 26 points 1 week ago

And you understand that there are a significant number of people working to do so, and that doing it correctly is not an overnight process?

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No. There really aren’t. There are people talking about how terrible it is. Some are making cute little signs and doing parades.

Nobody is “working to stop them.”

[-] hovercat 68 points 1 week ago

I'm so, so fucking sick and tired of all the doomer shut-in fuckwits who think that we're going to fix this by doing a Jan 6 style raid on the White House. That's not how any of this works. I went to a No Kings protest. You want to know what happened before/after the "parade"? Thousands of people signed up to move our state towards ranked choice voting, information was given out on protecting your community from ICE, and people are getting resources to be more politically active. Literally every political advocacy org in my area has absolutely exploded and we're at a point where we're having to pause memberships because there are so many people trying to join.

Real change takes a bit of fucking time and I'm so, so, so sick and tired of all the people who act like no one is doing anything, while they themselves do fuck-all but doom scroll on Lemmy and post about how it's all over.

It's a boss battle, and bitching about how people are just dodge rolling and parrying and have barely chipped away at the health bar is absolutely asinine.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Doomers or agents provacateur?

I've been thinking about this for a while now. Especially when these people come out of the woodwork to push productive conversation into extremist territory. It's probably a good idea for everyone to keep an eye out and not rise to the bait.

Anyway, don't let me derail things. Let's keep it civil and keep telling these yahoos to take a hike.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Fuck yeah this is the correct kind of comment right here.

[-] rozodru@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

the problem is many believe you're not winning this via signatures or advocacy groups or resources to provide info to stop the literal SS. I think that's the frustration with many people.

I understand it's a "boss battle" but I think what confuses many outsiders looking in is the notion that for the longest time the impression of the US has been "gun loving patriotic 'don't tread on me' nation" and when people see the lack of gun loving patriots allowing themselves to be tread all over they're like "you ok America?"

I mean trust me as someone who lives directly above you guys I'd love nothing more than to see you start knocking teeth in because I absolutely hate living above a Nazi country.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

No one is saying signitures are what will win. However, protests and activist gatherings are how you reach new people. Yeah, they don't work alone. They're how you start in the bigger stuff though. Any successful resistance starts slow and small. The ones that don't die quickly.

[-] Booboofinget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The Dream of a Thousand Cats.

[-] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

And hopefully that all motivates more people to vote this time around. I assume there are a lot more liberally minded people in the US than Magats, anyway. Though that's not proving out at the ballot box, though.

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[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Whew. Okay, uh- I guess, when they’re loading you into one of the the vans you can take some satisfaction in having really given a piece of your mind to some guy on the internet who suggested you bring something other than pillows to a gunfight.

[-] hovercat 12 points 1 week ago

Did I mention one of the organizations is the SRA? I'm well aware of the possibility of being loaded into a van and I'm going to do my damned best to keep myself, my friends, and people in my community out of them.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

the SRA?

Is that the Socialist Rifle Association? Didn't know they existed... cool.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Almost sounds like you enjoy things being so bad, because nobody who has a normal opinion about it talks like this.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Thoughts and prayers aren't gonna help you.
Neither are protests. Or votes.
Yes you absolutely will need Jan6-style raids - a lot of them.

Good luck.

[-] hovercat 2 points 1 week ago

Thank you, we will absolutely need it.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

The husband in OP pic is literally someone doing something

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I get why ppl are downvoting you but you do have a point. What are people doing? Writing strongly worded letters? Putting them "on blast" on their socials? Sharing an article. I know what you mean, and there's only one thing that can stop fascists once they have power because they will never give it up

[-] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

As always there is a german word for this: „Sippenhaft“, collective punishment.

She was used as leverage against the extended family of a guilty person, making relatives liable with their freedom, property, or lives. ‘Sippenhaft’ usually meant imprisonment in a concentration camp. (Taken from Wikipedia)

Widely used by the Nazis - who could have known.

[-] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago

https://stopice.net/

This showed a couple more verified results than the iceblock app recently, and it needs less data to provide notifications.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Nice! A website is a much better idea than an app. You can, theoretically, hide yourself on a website (though not by default, and almost no one will be anonymous if the site wants to collect data, including people with privacy plug-ins).

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 25 points 1 week ago
[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

And then what? It's not like this government cares about lawsuits.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

A judge will award her s nice payout.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Which she will just not get.

[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Depending on which state she works in, she might have no rights. Many states have a right to fire an employee for any reason.

[-] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Hate being the grammar Nazi, but she didn't *lose her job for who she married".

She lost her job because of who she's married to.

She isn't a hero who saved her husband by losing her job. She's a criminal whose crime is being married to her husband.

At least that's what the wording implies quite strongly.

[-] Entitle9294@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Most grammar nazis I know would go with "whom" for the object of a preposition.

[-] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Not me.

'Whom' is the last vestage of cases in English, and I'd absolutely love to see them go. The only use for 'whom' I have is mocking the British, really.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

So selective application of the rules, got it.

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[-] reptar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Is "cases" a typo? If not, what does it mean in this context?

[-] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Grammar case (wikipedia)

Cases are a thing in languages with inflections such as Latin, Greek, German, slavic ones, and quite a few others. English used to have them in the middle ages, but they faded away in favour of prepositions, and the only place they still exist is who/whom.

Apparently he/him/his and she/her/hers are also inflections, but they seem different enough to not "feel" like inflections of the same root (especially she/her). Since inflections are not a common thing in English, one conceptually doesn't even know they aren't seperate words but deeply connected on a morphological level was opposed to particles (by, for, of, with). Especially someone without the context of knowing how they work in languages that utilize them on a more fundamental level.

However, looking at these words as if they're particles and not inflecions is a simple enough way to know how to use them (that's why you probably haven't heard of them).

[-] Entitle9294@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Grammatical case. I can only really describe it in German. If you take the sentence "The boy gives the man the apple", it's "Der Junge gibt dem Mann den Apfel". "Der" is masculine form of "the" in the Nominative case. "Den" is the masculine form of "the" in the Accusative case. "Dem" is the masculine form of "the" in the Dative case. It's subject, indirect object, direct object, respectively, if you know verbs. There's also the Genitive case, which I didn't go into here.

The reason it's not sufficient to talk about subject, direct object, and indirect object though is because the grammatical case also goes beyond just a noun's relationship to a verb, it's also affected by prepositions. If you take the German sentence "I'm driving with the Man, but without the Apple" (I know, sort of a silly sentence), "ich fahre mit dem Mann, aber ohne den Apfel. The prepositions here, "mit" and "ohne", dictate that the two masculine nouns in the sentence get the masculine form of "the" in the Dative case and Accusative case, respectively. The reason why some prepositions dictate certain cases isn't clear to me. I just have the tables memorized :D

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 week ago

...so is she married to he or is she married to him?..

[-] Entitle9294@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Most grammar nazis I know would probably go with "Not I"

[-] goosehorse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Informally, leaving that preposition hanging at the end is fine, but for formal writing, you'd be locked away by the grammar cops:

"She lost her job because of the person to whom she is married."

[-] lukaro@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

I wonder how long until it's officially illegal to oppose the asswipe.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

I would already consider it pretty risky to run the app without doing some pretty serious privacy protections.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I'd prefer not visiting the daily beast but, unless she was feeding info to her husband for the app, how does firing her even prevent the app?

It's a cruel, yet impotent, punishment.

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It doesn't, it sends a message.

[-] bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Show of hands for anyone surprised by this at this stage?

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

If they start a GoFundMe, I'll kick in.

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