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[-] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 174 points 1 week ago

He's literally an alien from another planet. He was sent here because he lost his home planet. He's always been an immigrant/refugee. Do these people have a single brain cell between all of them?

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 73 points 1 week ago

I say this a lot, but conservatives either have very poor media literacy, or are happily lying to further their agenda. Sometimes both.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I had one guy try to tell me he was probably legal.

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[-] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 week ago

He also came here as a child.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

The story's only been around 86 years. Relax.

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah but he's nice. And their president told them that immigrants are rapists and killer

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[-] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 45 points 1 week ago

The word woke is badge of honour at this point.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 28 points 1 week ago

Always was.

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I love "insults" that are really complements
You're smart, haha nerd!
You're capable of empathy, haha woke!

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[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 week ago

I’ve slowly distanced myself from political communities so now I see nonsense like this and wonder what’s going on out there.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 107 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The new Superman movie basically had the message of "Don't be a shit person"; people are outraged.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago

lol, you could have said this at any point in the last 50 years and I would have believed you completely

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 week ago

Well you see, the movie's message was "Don't be a shit person, including to brown people". You can probably tell what got conservatives so outraged.

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

James Gunn said Superman is an immigrant, which he of course is.

But I guess some people thought he was born in the USA.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Once upon a time the slogan used to be “truth, justice, and the American way”. Guess which part people wanted to keep, which parts they wanted to throw out the window.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It used to be Truth, Justice, and Peace. That is until the US went into marketing mode and recruited all superheroes into 'the American way' for WW2 propaganda.

[-] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

You prompted me to look up an article, and it's an interesting history. Apparently, "the American way" didn't actually appear in a comic until 1991. It's almost exclusively a phrase for radio and television.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/heres-how-supermans-iconic-motto-of-truth-justice-and-the-american-way-evolved-over-time-180986927/

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[-] randomuser38529@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

He wasn’t even the first to call him that so publicly. This is an official WB documentary which got released with Superman Returns in 2006. I forgot when exactly but I’m pretty sure the narrator called him that within the first, maybe 20 minutes or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCIRmVKxESQ

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The bad guys have a military to gun down brown unmarked families to take over a neighboring country.

Zionists: and I took that personally.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago

I'm a 6'3" man weighing 230lbs. I couldn't hold back tears with that little kid (who obviously represented Palestine) holding the Superman flag in the face of tanks and an army.

Like, fuck me dude. I have been looking for some level of solidarity after 2 years of hearing a death count repeated every morning from Amy Goodman.

It's just a film. It's not going to change anything about our garbage world. But if anything it made me feel a little less alone when contrasting my time spent at protests with my time spent having to listen to idiot coworkers.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 27 points 1 week ago

It’s chilling just how accurate that is.

If you showed that image to people in the 80s and 90s, I guess essentially pre-9/11 america, when I was young and taught america was called “the melting pot,” it would feel like a joke rather than a warning.

[-] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

America has never been a melting pot. Every new group of immigrants to this country have been horribly abused and hate crimed. Not just brown people either.

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[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago

Superman ... who is a literal alien immigrant ... is probably immigrant? Really!?! No wonder the Superman writers dumped using "Truth, Justice, and the American way"

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 7 points 1 week ago

I never wanted a black superman so bad to see some heads explode

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If they are going to bitch that much might as well make Superman gay

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 1 week ago

Isn’t that what the pink kryptonite does?

Make a movie about his son, who's canonically bi

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[-] generator@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Johnathan Kent (Clark & Lóis son) is gay and has a boyfriend, he had a comic run as Superman while Clark was off-world, so he was a gay Superman (now is back to Superboy or just Johnathan)

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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As a non-American it just surprises me so much that Fox News can fool so many people, especially when "critical thinking" is touted as one of the things kids learn in school, as pictured in popular media like TV shows and movies. 🤷‍♂️ It's just so obviously propaganda. You can tell by just the way they behave. You barely even have to listen to what they say. 😆 (But doing so surely makes it all the more crystal clear.)

[-] MJKee9@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

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[-] prole 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah, conservatives found out long ago that the more education a person gets, the less likely they are to support conservative politicians. So they have literally sabotaged their own future by gutting education, and we're now reaping the rewards.

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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Is it really fooling anyone if the people watching Fox News already follow that hateful ideology before they even turn on the TV. It’s just confirmation bias and Fox News is happy to provide it. They watch it to feel righteous and not to learn anything.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Where do they find these ideologies before they turn on the TV? Curious to know as an outsider.

Either way, if I believed something and my fellow peers within this belief spoke like this, I'd fucking start questioning my beliefs. 🤨

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Depends. For lots of my Southern family, oldschool racist and Confederate roots are deep, and tied to church culture. And I've seen examples outside of that where things are 'learned,' like a macho, sexist, homophobe jerk kinda ex-friend who's Dad was the same.

Also, talk radio was like this long before Fox got so extreme. Rush Limbaugh was huge, people like him were a staple across the rural US and can still be heard if you tune in.

In the richer eschelons (like in my private school), libertarian-mindedness is more common, and extreme social conservatism bleeds in from there, as counterintuitive as that seems.

In other words, the Fox environment has been cooking for decades (if not a centuries), and I agree: they're catering to (and stoking) the market that's already there.

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[-] Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Looks like a headline from a fictional news segment in The Boys

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 16 points 1 week ago

That's the one that conservatives thought the villain was the good guy, right? I'm not sure if that's a thing that really happened or just a satire of conservatives famously poor media literacy.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In the show, the conservative population eats it up.

If conservatives IRL don't get that The Boys is making fun of conservatives not understanding satire that's a bonus.

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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

They all know that Trump would deport superman ya? He literally is an illegal alien.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago

He can try. Superman isn't a fan of Nazis.

[-] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

Fits right in with The Boys

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Really shows how the US truly is a backwards country.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

The monkey scene really triggered them didn't it?

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[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

They don't want to be woke. Ergo, they wish to remain sleepy sheep.

[-] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Ohh is that where the ghoul kellyann ended up? She's aged poorly.

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

It's not a bad movie, it's not great either. I was probably expecting too much because Gunn directed it.

One thing I wouldn't have ever described it as is 'Woke'. Yeah, Superman seemed to have a pretty decent (if simplistic) take on the Israel/Palestine analogues, and didn't seem overly eager to kiss the governments ass- but the underlying power structures of oppression aren't really examined.

If we are using the word as MAGAts have attempted to redefine it (anything they don't like), then yeah I guess it could be 'woke'. It has "females" with opinions, people of color and foreigners treated as human beings, a very mild critiques of Israel, an old farmer and his wife that weren't automatically portrayed as closed minded fascists simply because they were 'country folk'. etc.

The only semi interesting question I left the movie with is

spoiler"Was the message from Kal-El's parents doctored by Luthor" My guess is that it was.

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[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

The thing I find funny, is the "twist" with his parents sending him to Earth to conquer it is something conservatives could jump on to help their anti immigrant stance. But whatever. It's not like they have a set of values they fall back on to make sure their ship is headed in the right direction.

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