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[-] caboose2006@lemmy.world 138 points 1 week ago

I lived in china for 4 years and Winnie has Def never been outlawed. Chinese censorship is much more sophisticated than "hey, that's illegal." There's not a list of pictures or memes or phrases that if you're caught with you'll get a visit from the police. No no no. There are hundreds of thousands of people monitoring social media for the latest "subversive" trends. When a new trend develops that content is blacklisted and just not allowed to be spread. You'll send your friend a picture and it never shows up on their phone. There's no indication on your end that it didn't send or they didn't get it. You can have this content on your phone, the CCP doesn't care. They care about it spreading. And you'll never get in trouble for trying to spread it because the system doesn't allow it to spread.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago

That's actually kinda cool in a techno dyatopian kinda way.

[-] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 48 points 1 week ago

I was going to say horrifying.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

Yeah it is horrifying but it is a cool concept. Ofc you'll know something is off when your friend doesn't respond to what you sent them.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Seems more like Huxley than Orwell.

They get you with inconvenience instead of brute force.

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

stop talking about novels like they're historical studies or facts

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Getting too close to comfort for you?

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

no, it's a novel, it's a work of fiction, not a piece of theory or history that you can quote, the ending and the world is entirely built by the writer, there's no study it's literally arguments made up by the writer based on no sources or research, anyone can write a dystopian story, I could write a dystopian story and quote it right now, it's not argument, it's stupid.

You know, in my novel of people who quote novels ending up as nazis, you do resemble it a lot.

/\ as valid as using a novel like 1984 or animal farm or whatever else as an argument

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

1984 and Brave New World are allegories based on real life social observations and events. So, yes, they are based on history. They are famous for a reason. It is just that you find it too close to comfort.

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[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That happens to me on YouTube; the only way I can talk to some people is on rednote.

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[-] _lunar@lemmy.ml 87 points 1 week ago

it's a massive fucking lie anyway; anyone who's been to china can tell you they have winnie the pooh merch in every fuckin' shop. winnie the pooh is very popular there.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

I think the top comment is the real answer on this.

There is censorship in China, as well as in the west. They just operate very differently.

In the west, outside the US, I think it'd be fairly easy to argue there's more censorship in China. (Even with the pretty depressing clamp down on right to protest, and suppressing of anti-israel speech in many forms happening at the moment)

Equally though, people massively overblow what censorship is actually like in China. I'm not gonna get disappeared next time I go to China just for this comment. Or even if I overtly criticised the government on real-name social media.

tl;dr "China bad!" and "China so good!" are both equally annoying positions to find on the internet.

Reality is nuanced, but that doesn't seem to make people happy.

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[-] Fredthefishlord 14 points 1 week ago

So they're surely just randomly banning those words from videogames

[-] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago

I knew woke leftists making vidyagames political was CCP plot

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Idk man. People typically use it to be racist against Chinese folk. It's not crazy that video game moderation teams would ban a common insult against a race of players.

I also don't know anything, but it sounds like none of us do and we are just speculating

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[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Is there a source for this claim? Or just something you've noticed?

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[-] Yetanotherpaolo@feddit.nl 22 points 1 week ago

Makes sense, ones an inoffensive cartoon, the others a cunt who should die.

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[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 18 points 1 week ago

Didn’t this turn out to be fake?

[-] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 139 points 1 week ago

No, his face really does look like that

[-] tfm@europe.pub 29 points 1 week ago

More proof he looks like this

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

Have you even said thank you?

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[-] mriswith@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

None of the documentation or statements by US officials are consistent, and appear to include a bit of lying. So people are leaning towards him being at least partially correct in his accusations.

In short, they saw the picture and then began an extended interview where they made a bunch of false claims, and used made up reasons to deny him. Then later claimed they used more reasonable argument, which also doesn't really hold water.

[-] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago

I think US customs said it was because he admitted to using drugs in the past and had photos of a paraphernalia on his phone. He said they ignored that stuff and focused on the photo. So it comes down to whether you think one specific customs employee could potentially see something they don’t like and choose to refuse entry for another reason or that customs is being honest and open about the reason his entry was refused and that the people making the announcement fully understand the situation (including the thoughts of the person that examined the photos).

I feel like the latter is unlikely, but I don’t have enough evidence to say either way. I don’t think drug paraphernalia in a photo or admitting past drug use are good reasons to refuse entry either.