Crazy how Spacey’s career abruptly ended, even though he was acquitted and/or found not guilty. Yet Trump, who has lost his civil sexual assault cases, is the fucking president of the United States and no one will do anything about it.
You forgot about being a 34x convicted but not sentenced criminal.
He was sentenced, it's just that his sentence was ... nothing. Which of course is a totally appropriate penalty for a fucking felony.
Spacey would still be making movies now if he’d just preyed on vulnerable women instead.
Dustin Hoffman, Ben Affleck, Morgan Freeman, Ryan Seacrest all have multiple SA allegations that they were able to play down and keep working, but those were all from women.
Most homophobia stems from the fear of male rape, so the usual meninist/MRA crowd who scrambled to defend “innocent until proven guilty” for Russell Brand (3 upcoming producer credits) are nowhere to be seen when it’s Spacey.
(for clarity, this is not a defense of Spacey, it’s an attack on hypocrisy)
The only way I can lose is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.
-- Edwin Edwards
Jesus Christ is that a real quote? It's accurate AF. Like, uncomfortably accurate.
yes, it is revealing how flexible the conservative soul is when it comes to corruption and perversion, while simultaneously being inflexible about things like compassion, charity and kindness.
The only true thing Trump has ever uttered was that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose support.
That is so not true. He also said "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait."
Fair enough! Two true things.
You know what though? I bet he was lying. I bet he doesn't just start kissing them. I bet he does wait. That's totally what TACO would do.
Worth noting Spacey is currently on Epstein flight logs that have been released
We don't need your help here..
Right? Like we get it, you're not in the files, and you want to remind everyone you were acquitted and found not civilly liable of your own sexual misconduct. But "not guilty" is not the same as "innocent," and dodging legal responsibility is not vindication.
But “not guilty” is not the same as “innocent,” and dodging legal responsibility is not vindication.
Basically the courts don't matter and all that matters is public opinion? And this is where you launch into a "the courts are corrupt" and "the rich never get punished" or some similar BS?
I mean are they wrong that the rich never really get punished? Trump and those 34 convictions that resulted in nothing already forgotten? Diddy getting a not guilty for the severe charges also forgotten?
Kevin Spacey aside, you seem to be saying you don’t support the concept of “innocent until proven guilty.”
Not when your remaining accusers dropped their charges against you after a few of them died in mysterious accidents after you put out a weirdly threatening video on Christmas.
Its easy if you have nothing to fear because you are already convicted
Its easy if you have nothing to fear because you are already convicted
He wasn't though, except in the court of public opinion. He's been acquitted or found not liable in all of the cases which have gone to trial.
Oh, I didn't follow it closely but I was convinced he was convicted of sexual abuse. I guess it just speaks about the power of public opinion even if you don't get formally convicted. For better or worse.
He's not worried because Epstein didn't traffic little boys.
We actually don't know that. We just know for sure that he and Maxwell trafficked little girls for a whole bunch of famous and powerful people who killed him before he could talk.
probably becauses hes into male minors. and not female like most of the pedophiles/ephebophiles out there.
Not googling that word
It's just a synonym for libertarian.
That's so funny
It's a distinction some make, where pedophiles go for the kid kids, like prepubescent, where ephebophiles want the ones who have at least started puberty but are still kids.
Hold my beer, it's even more complicated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia
Don't ask me why I know, I just like getting to the grit of things.
"My computer recently crashed and I've lost all my friends' email addresses."
I think it's more like Epstein specialized in girls
I mean, it's the one time he's guaranteed to not be named in a sexual assault case, so why not?
I know and agree with everyone’s anger toward Spacey. But, and hear me out here, if it means releasing the Epstein files, then so be it. Let the man speak. Once that’s done, he can go fuck right off again.
Somehow I don't think he'll be the make-or-break that determines whether the files get released.
he's mad wasn't invited to those parties and had to get his own victims
Perverts can sniff out other perverts I guess is the point of this story?
He proudly proclaims that he didnt need any help to prey upon his victims
Anything to ratchet up the pressure on that orange toddler is welcomed.
my personal objection.
releasing the Epstein's files will include people he wanted to target but never got anywhere.
however, it would be very clear that those people are innocent, and they're will be people in the files that were clearly diddling children.
Either the files should be released in full and the only consequence for people who casually met Epstein and never interacted with him will be some conspiracy nuts harassing them. or at worse censor the list for those names.
Also, just because there isn't a file named "Epstein's client list.docx" doesn't mean there isn't info about his clients.
"just because there isn't a file named "Epstein's client list.docx" doesn't mean there isn't info about his clients."
Exactly, this focus on a "list" drives me crazy. If detectives investigating a murder don't find a piece of paper with the victim's name on it in the killer's possession, they don't throw their hands up and say, damn he got away with it.
Epstein's entire business model revolved around having receipts on his clients, that's how he stayed out of prison for decades, and it's why they are covering it up now. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a supressed criminal investigation.
I'm wondering what kind of international incident this will cause. Who else is in there, it can't be just Americans?
Soup be thickening.
He saw Stephen King get called a nonce for claiming the list didn't exist and saw an opportunity.
Oh, King's for sure on that list if he's saying that.
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