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[-] RedSeries 82 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Part of me wishes we didn't have timezones at all. Like normalizing the idea that some places have mornings at 22:00 and others have it at 07:00. Would definitely make my life easier not dealing with timezones anymore.

EDIT: I want to be clear, this is me pining for a world where any date or time is aligned without the need for conversion. It's impractical, skips the caveats that timezones help fix, and it's not really how we, as humans, think of or experience time in a day. Some of y'all really jumped on this, but it's not a serious suggestion. I do really appreciate the thought experiment and interesting discussion of it though!

[-] myster0n@feddit.nl 65 points 2 weeks ago

Without timezones, not only would the whole world live on the same time, but also on the same date. So, the sun comes up at 22:00, and then two hours later it's the next day. So, which part of the world will volunteer to have their date change in the middle of the day? I don't think the world would ever agree on anything like that.

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago

Not just one place but almost everywhere in the world will click over to the next day during regular sun-up or just after sun-down hours. Only a few places will be lucky enough to have the date change during regular sleeping hours.

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[-] RedSeries 12 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, that's already kind of an issue in the sense of determining what day something happened when using a timezone.

I think timezones help give a sense of shared "day" in the sense of when the sun is roughly meant to rise and set. I also think we're super used to them and I don't expect my opinion to change our relationship with time.

That said, timezones are wildly inconsistent and often difficult to track. This goes doubly for places that practice daylight savings of some kind. I like the simplicity of ideas like UTC and stuff.

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[-] Saleh@feddit.org 28 points 2 weeks ago

This makes things way more complicated.

When are timezones relevant? When dealing with people far away, or when traveling for longer distances.

In the first case it is far more easier to remember that John is +3 ours from you and Julia is -2 hours, than to have to remember when John gets up and when Julia gets up, and when they go to sleep and so on. Remembering "about my shedule but +/-x" is far easier.

In terms of flights it might seem easier at first, however once you land and realize that 13:40 means the middle of the night and everything being closed, you will quickly wish differently. Imagine for every further away place you visit you have to learn how the UTC translates to local opening hours, instead of just rolling with local time.

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[-] Glifted@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

You're basically advocating everyone switches to to UTC which is kind of already used when organizing online events

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[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have an opposite yet equally radical proposal. Time zones are subdivided into infinitesimally small segments of longitude, effectively making them continuous. They are assigned to individual persons based in their current location on the globe and are updated regularly through geolocalization services like GPS. When you move, your time zone changes as well. Have a meeting at 10am? No, you don't. Living in UTC-8:00? It's UTC-7:58:33.0371 in your living room now. Going to work on your bike? Prepare for time travel. No GPS connection? The exhilarating sensation of timelessness.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 8 points 2 weeks ago

That's actually what it used to be like before time zones. Every town would have its own time. Wouldn't be much of a problem when you had to travel to the next town by foot, horse or cart.

But I think when trains started to become more common they had to synchronise times.

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Great, that means I can sell this idea to conservatives (trains = bad).

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[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

This only makes sense for robots without circadian rhythm and for that we set the system time on servers to UTC and just read the timezone in your browser for display you needy meatpuppet

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 weeks ago

Huh?

Your circadian rythm would be unaffected. Your clock might just say "07:00" at solar noon. You'd adjust. It changes numbers on a clock not like, your day to day schedule.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Timezones were necessary once trains became prevalent. Having a geographical region all in yhe same time allowed for actual schedules that could be kept.

This comment also seems to discount the seasonal short days due to axial tilt.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago

Timezones are only necessary if people demand that 12:00 be noon. This doesn’t have to be. Neither does the wall-clock time have anything to do with day length. Did you even read the comment you responded to?

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Timezones were created so that you didn't travel west for 4 hours and arrive before you left.

Edit: do you think every town having their own time was helpful?

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

Either you’re illiterate or you’re a troll. Either way I’m done arguing with you.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nah dude, what replaces the timezones? We live in an interconnected world. Timezones or a mechanism similar is nesscary. Have you actually left the area you grew up in or do you not understand time?

[-] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

The general suggestion is to just use UTC everywhere. Ask if you don't know what UTC is.

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[-] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Especially in programming

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

You mean one timezone, not no timezones. Without timezones everyone uses their local time, just like in the 19th century when getting off a train meant setting your watch to the stations clock first thing

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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago

Chaps in Glasgow at 1am trying to sleep

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I only see 1 chap in Glasgow at 1 am trying to sleep. Where are the others?

Are they in the dark part of the picture?

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[-] Marty_TF@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 weeks ago

holy fuck that is actually so fucking cool

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

I nearly dropped this in c/mildlyinteresting, but I also thought it was too cool.

[-] sepi@piefed.social 23 points 2 weeks ago

I've been in Ireland during this time of the year and boy you couldn't tell by the cloud cover.

[-] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure the cloud cover is just to save processing power on the twilight rendering, much easier to just apply a static flat light source to everything

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[-] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

holy shit Dublin doesn't even have nighttime from May 15 to July 30. it's astronomical twilight all night

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Many people forget how far north Europe is because of the mild climate we have. Like countries like Ireland and Netherlands are as far north as Newfoundland. And these two countries rarely get heavy snowfall like Newfoundland. And Saint Tropez is on the same latitude as Vermont.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's pretty scary when you think about it: Europe's mild climate seems to be extremely fragile, dependent on the aligning of a few major forces.

[-] jnod4@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Those few major forces are slowly weakening. We'll have Canadian winters in Europe. Which, hey, I missed snow but also the gas prices in England will have me "wake" up frozen dead one morning

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

NYC lines up with Greece.

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[-] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Round earth propaganda 🙄

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

We all know earth is a mobius strip.

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 11 points 2 weeks ago

Wait until you hear about the Arctic circle...

[-] lime@feddit.nu 18 points 2 weeks ago

tomorrow is going to be the first sunset in kiruna since may.

here's an old photo taken sometime after midnight the 6th of june 2016:

panorama photograph of kiruna

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 5 points 2 weeks ago
[-] lime@feddit.nu 6 points 2 weeks ago

not mine, i stole it from flickr :P also i'm now not sure that it's actually midnight, because there's a photosphere of that exact place on google maps and the compass is confusing me. i think the wall is to the southwest, which would make the sun to the north-northwest but the compass shows the wall as being east-west. annoyingly the shed isn't visible on the satellite image.

...and now i've spent way too long looking at pictures of a place i haven't been to for almost 20 years.

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[-] Denjin@lemmings.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Almost as if the sun sets earlier in winter or something 🤔

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

But Africa is in the dark AF

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Proof there is no god

[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

Proof that the earth is flat

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