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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 145 points 3 weeks ago

I have a Traeger and saved $200 because it was the model without WiFi.

I made a delicious turkey breast on Independence Day

[-] derg@lemmy.world 125 points 3 weeks ago

Jokes on you when they invent a new kind of meat your grill can’t cook

[-] rem26_art@fedia.io 72 points 3 weeks ago

DRM Ribs. The Salmonella will not die until you pay for Traeger's $19 a month subscription

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

It can do bread and the best tasting broccoli and Brussels sprouts you’ve ever had

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[-] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

Are you live from your backyard where you're smoking meats?

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[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 106 points 3 weeks ago

I will never own a grill that has to connect to wifi. In fact, I actively avoid any appliance that adds unnecessary IOT functionality.

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 46 points 3 weeks ago

That was me until HomeAssistant and ESPHome

[-] MangoPenguin 18 points 3 weeks ago

At least with ESPHome and other local-only devices they only update when you actually tell them to update.

[-] SoleInvictus 18 points 3 weeks ago

Oh shit, I didn't know about ESPhome. There goes my free time!

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[-] riskable@programming.dev 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I know, right? Why send my BBQ data to the cloud when I can just cook with a handful of GPUs, locally? To start the grill you just ask the animated waifu to dance and sing a random, AI-generated song that matches your taste in music. Then the fans spin up and send scrumptious GPU heat into the grill, cooking up a delicious hallucination where your animated waifu sings, "That looks yummy! Yummy yummy yummy! Hai hai hai!"

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[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We're starting to add some IoT stuff (mostly sockets and leak sensors for the basement brewery) but it had to wait until i'd built a beefier firewall and the HA server. 'Cos that shit is not leaving the house

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 82 points 3 weeks ago

What are the chances they shipped it on Thanksgiving vs Thanksgiving being the first time in a while the user turned it on?

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 88 points 3 weeks ago

This, but why does it need a firmware update and why couldn't it be setup to update on shutdown rather then power on?

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[-] AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world 71 points 3 weeks ago

I'm an IT nerd but they could not pay me to buy a grill that requires software updates. What a bunch of nonsense.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago

Pay me? Fuck yes, I'll rip that crap out and replace it with a couple of relays or maybe get fancy and arduino -> home assistant.

I'm betting that someone pay a LOT extra to get that garbage though.

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 weeks ago

Sending a temp updates to your phone so you don't have to be standing near it the whole time is a nice feature.

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[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

I guarantee this update didn't drop on Thanksgiving. Photo OP probably hasn't turned it on since their last BBQ months ago and is just noticing - on Thanksgiving - that an update pushed a while ago that they now need to install to get started.

Pro tip: Start up your electronics a day or two in advance of events, so you can pre-patch anything that needs it.

Source: Former IT guy here, who had to ensure that updates ran at the most convenient times possible for thousands of users. "Patching Tuesday" is an unofficial but well recognized "holiday" for IT folks. It's not first thing Monday morning, which could throw off the workflow for the week, but it also gives the max amount of time to resolve any issues that patching might cause, so we (hopefully) don't have to work through the weekend.

Pay attention to when your stuff requires patches. A lot of the time, it'll pop up on Tuesdays.

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 weeks ago

Source: Former IT guy here, who had to ensure that updates ran at the most convenient times possible for thousands of users.

I used to work at a theater owned by a city. So we used the city’s IT department, and their network. During COVID, live-streaming took off. The city wanted us to install a streaming video package. After a month or two of installing a full video system, we finally get around to testing the stream. Boot up AWS, and it runs fine. We’re streaming in full 4K. Great!

So the show rolls around. It’s Saturday, 7:30pm start time. We start the show… And the stream instantly shits the bed. Like we go from full gigabit upload speed, to less than a single megabit. We’re lucky to get 56kbps speeds. We’re getting one or two frames per second if we’re lucky.

Sunday, we test the stream ahead of time, and it works flawlessly. Show starts, and the upload speed drops to fucking dial up.

Monday morning rolls around, and IT strolls in to check their tickets. Sees a hundred from us, and gives us a call. They run a test on their end. No issues. They run a test on AWS. No issues. They run a test on the fiber backbone between the theater and city hall. No issues. They call the ISP. ISP said they didn’t have any issues over the weekend. IT shrugs, and marks the tickets as solved.

Next weekend, same thing. We’re wondering if IT is automatically throttling us, or if we have a malicious user on the network. We’re asking about QoS, or maybe automatic port control kicking in when the stream starts. Monday rolls around, and IT marks it as solved again.

Third weekend, same thing. This time, the city manager’s office is getting calls from angry patrons who paid for streaming and can’t watch their streams. Monday morning, IT rolls up. They run some more tests, and still can’t find anything wrong. They swear up and down that it’s nothing on their end, and it must be something on ours.

After four months of this back and forth, IT finally admits that they have all of their maintenance tasks to run at 7:30 over the weekend. Every single computer, server, and fucking toaster connected to the city network begins their updates at exactly 7:30. Thousands of city devices, all singularly focused on devouring our upload speeds. Servers run off-site backups. Those backups consume all of the upload speeds for the entire city network. IT refuses to change the time, because “this is what works for us. It’s after city hall closes, so we don’t have any users who are affected. It hasn’t been a problem in the past.”

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Pro tip; use electronics that are stable and user focused.

Good shout on patch tues tho.

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[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

It's a smoker with wireless controls

Instead of having to keep checking on it for several hours, an app on your phone will show the temperature and allow temperature adjustments online

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You can also just get a normal smoker and a wireless thermometer that works with RF, which has a range of like 700-1000ft, and while it has some theoretical security flaws it results in a situation that is infinitely more secure than a WiFi/app situation. Even if someone bothered to sniff the rf traffic what are they going to do, see the temperature of your brisket? Oh no

Additionally this way the smoker is basically invincible because it’s not digital and as long as you don’t let it rust out it will last forever. If you somehow break the thermometer it’s like $30 to replace but I guarantee you can find models that are somewhat repairable and have user replaceable batteries, which guarantee this thing doesn’t

[-] adubya@feddit.online 27 points 3 weeks ago

Just waiting for the day an evil hacker leaks someone's smoker data to the neighborhood, exposing they cranked the smoker to 375° when they bragged about their brisket cooking 225° the whole time.

[-] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 14 points 3 weeks ago

That sounds like the plot to an American Dad episode.

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[-] ChiefPulaski@startrek.website 39 points 3 weeks ago

when you buy a wifi-grill you kind of missed the point of grilling.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's great for smoking though. I've done it the old fashioned way of staying up all night to feed wood into the smoker and I'll gladly take a wifi-enabled pellet smoker with a temperature probe over it.

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

Why do you need wifi? You turn a knob and fill it with pellets every couple hours.

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[-] tnarg42@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

...The sort of grill I will never buy.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 weeks ago

I like my home automation tech but it needs to serve a purpose. Just being connected to wifi is not a selling point for me. Lights that turn on in the morning when I need to wake up are great. A thermostat that can reduce energy usage when nobody is home is also great. But a grill….what the fuck does Internet access do to improve the grilling experience?

And if it requires the cloud to work, I don’t consider it a functional product.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Serious answer?

I have an app on my phone that allows me to control my pellet grill as long as it and my phone have an internet connection.

Doing a 12 hr smoke, I can leave the house and monitor it while I go shopping, change the temps if its not acting right. I can set temperature alerts and then go around the house and my phone goes off when the meat hits a certain internal temp. Its really really handy.

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[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

Grill, Dehumidifier, Air con, Fridge, Dishwasher, Washing Machine, Lightbulbs, Ovens, Doorknob…

None of that should be smarter than "press button, get action".

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Connected HVAC can be pretty damn great depending on your house. It’s changed my energy usage a lot, and I like being able to adjust temps without walking downstairs in the middle of the night. Although having your thermostat lose cloud support ever 10-15 years is pretty shitty.

Connected doors are also great for handing out virtual keys and ensuring that stuff is shut and locked when you’re away.

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[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Goldholz 22 points 3 weeks ago

Can we go back to dumb tech?

[-] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm a casino slot tech. Don't even get me started on the electronic table games that still use a dealer! Like Scotty said, "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.".

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[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine a grill without the latest firewall

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[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

I have a friend who's really big in to smoking meats for hours and hours and days at a time. He loves this kind of thing because he can monitor the smoker without physically being in front of it.

I think he's crazy af for involving the damned internet in it but I guess it is what it is when you're "cooking" something for 9 hours.

[-] this@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago

Probably a security update to try and keep it from being part of a botnet maybe? What would work better though is never connecting it to a network or even better, just don't make it smart for no dam reason, lol.

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[-] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 16 points 3 weeks ago

There was a silly little movie in the 80's called "Maximum Overdrive", written and directed by Stephen King.

In it Aliens somehow cause machines to 'turn' on human beings and attack us.

They could remake that movie now but instead of Aliens causing the machines to attack people, it could be malicious 'hackers' that do it, and it would be more believable that the original film.

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[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Why does a grill need a screen and buttons? Maybe I'm living in the stone age, but what I call grilling involves putting charcoal to a flame.

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[-] sundray@lemmus.org 15 points 3 weeks ago

"Le Firmware? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?"

[-] pxlkttn 13 points 3 weeks ago

I have a Christmas tree with built-in LED lights where I can change their colors and make patterns and animations. Every year I get it out I have to do a firmware update on my Christmas tree before I can use it 😂

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[-] JusticeForPorygon 13 points 3 weeks ago

Idk I just simply wouldn't buy the wifi grill

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

But supposed they invented a whole new kind of meat and your grill wasn't ready to deal with it? How would you feel then? Pretty darn silly, that's how!

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yet more reasons that charcoal/firewood is superior.

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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

The same kind of grill that can be bricked remotely if you stop paying for software updates.

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