But why is it human nature to put a bench right where people are walking. It's like people in charge get off on creating obstacles for the common man just to feel powerful.
Over time, it will destroy large parts of the park.
Well, don't design park the brain-dead way and try to actually think about visitors and their needs. As in make a straight route to a damn crosswalk instead of making it an obstacle course.
What? No! You should be happy to even get any green to begin with.
- Capitalism
A field of monoculture grass is already destroyed.
Ackchyually, grass is almost always a mixture of different species (ryegrass, fescue and bluegrass) and therefore not a monoculture.
A lawn has its uses in parks, for example to have a Picknick. If you trow in some clover, daisies and ribwort, don't spray and patches are left to grow to provide shelter it's not that bad for biodiversity, depending on the climate of course.
Yeah, there's grass and then there's grass. Sure. I got no beef with a field of mixed grass that's left to grow, especially if there's mixed native wildflowers etc.
It's the fields of monoculture non-native grass that the Suburban White Dude[tm] wants to obsessively cultivate and that seems to be the goal of parks departments everywhere that's the problem.
My partner ranted to me the other day that she couldn't get a 10m^2 area from a local municipal parks department recently for a Miyawaki forest plot. No reasons, just "no." Very frustrating group of fuckin' boomers.
To everybody acting like the desire path is the problem:
- If the problem for you is that it's 'bad' or 'illegal', grow a spine so that when you need to break the law, for something that matters, you can do it with dry pants.
- If the design doesn't take into account how people will interact with it, it's bad and lazy. Only time it would be acceptable to 'force' a way to interact with something is when there are safety concerns, and there are none here.
- You are traped in a cage of your own making, break free or perish like the dog you are.
I wanted to say that surely nobody is complaining about desire paths and then I scrolled just a little bit... yikes!
Today, Iโm astonished to learn about the existence of anti-desire path people based on the comments here
Seriously. The rabidly boot licking deference obedience and weird conflation if the constructed with the natural/universal is like the worst thing we get from the mostly-christian (anti)intellectual tradition.
These people are not fit to be adults in a built environment. Their states if mind should not be allowed in a world with such feats of artifice as concrete and movable type.
Ok being real dude, I don't think this behavior is a product of "mostly-christian (anti)intellectual tradition," it's just the type of people who never grew out of the color-in-the-lines and follow-your-line-buddy stuff from grade school. I don't think there's any spectacular political statement to be made here.
I think it was a US uni campus, that redid the lawn and didn't put down any walking paths and waited for the desire paths to form and then paved those
I was coming here to say that! It's possibly apocryphal, but the way I heard it was that the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign did this when they did their main quad (I still remember them telling me this when I got a tour before applying there 30 years ago). And they didn't just look for where the plants were dead, but they also looked for broadleaf weeds, which sustain trampling better than grasses (it's a land grant university in the midwest. Of course there's an agriculture angle).
This specific case would be super predictable, notice how the desire path becomes wider at the end. Pedestrian path should always do that because that's how people walk.
I love how almost every comment talks as if the pedestrians were the problem, and not designers.
Just made the footpath in box 2 the actual path, and slap additional stuff anywhere not-on-top-of-where-peiople-walk.
The Internet is populated by people who think English grammar is cosmic law, so it doesn't surprise me that they think you should bend over for dogshit urban planning.
Ironically, none of them follow the rule of shutting up if they don't know shit about shit.
I love how the third and second to last panel are the same, as if nature paused briefly before it decided to open another path.
Human nature, not just nature.
Desire lines.
An early documented example is Broadway in New York City, which follows the Wecquaesgeek trail which predates American colonization.
Nice
I like how upset people are in the comments. Even has random ass comments about capitalism. This is great lol
Isn't that normal on lemmy? It's also fully expected to see some comments about Israel under every post no matter how unrelated it is. People made fun of political obsession on reddit, but to me lemmy has always felt much worse in this regard
Meme successful.
My brain is so Death Stranding-coded right now that I tried to give the path a bunch of likes ๐๐๐
Sometimes it is just carelessness of the people. Being blind to your fellow people's needs. Dropping trash where they stand. Refusing to walk two extra steps on the pathway and kill the grass instead.
In this case the requirements analysis of the parks and recreations dept was just bad and they are the asshole.
The parks department tried to work against what people wanted by blocking the path people wanted to use.
I wonder if the experience of 'shortcut' is part of the motivation, so that as soon as you've established a path, what constitutes 'shortcut' also changes. I'd be interested to know if curved paths were more desire path-resistant, because they appeal to an intuition about adjusting (and therefore optimizing) course.
You say this is human nature, but I see this comments section filled with good little doggies that follow master's rules.
The problem is a lack of "Beware of Grass Ticks" signs.
Beware of ticks, land mines, and bear traps.
"desire paths" well and good, but who (above the age of 15) is jumping a hedge to save 3 second walk time? Must be next to a school.
I'm more concerned about the city planner who was so strongly against the idea that the path should be coming right out of that crosswalk. That's just insulting, like they WANT everyone to waste just 3 more seconds.
This comment section is surprisingly spicy
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