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[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 231 points 2 weeks ago

Codifying your genocide support into law. Nice.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If there is ever justice for Palestine the trials will be short. These bastards are so proud of their support for genocide.

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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 195 points 2 weeks ago

Nonviolent direct action has earned them the label "terrorists."

[-] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 98 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"The closer the collapse of the Empire, the crazier its laws are."

~~Marcus Tullius Cicero~~ Someone

[-] Quik@infosec.pub 28 points 2 weeks ago

Grrrrr, he very likely didn't say that.

The closest to it I could find is “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws” by Tacitus (The Annals of Imperial Rome).

Cicero lived at the end of the republic, his problem wasn't too many laws...

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[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 62 points 2 weeks ago

When the sentence is the same for non-violent protest and for actual terrorism, don't be surprised if things get more extreme quickly.

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 43 points 2 weeks ago

Just more newspeak, like Trump calling everything he posts online "truths" while being nothing but lie after lie.

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 20 points 2 weeks ago

The Ministry of Truth -> MiniTrue

Truth Social -> 💩💨

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 161 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The harder they push their pro-Israel agenda, the more anti-Israel everyone is going to get.

You can't bully us into supporting a genocidal regime.

[-] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 weeks ago

My fucking brain is so fried.

Both my parents were in World War II. They fought against fascism. I was brought up to feel for what happened to the Jews during that war. Now all I see is that they seem to be being worse than the actual Nazis.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 58 points 2 weeks ago

Israel =/= the “Jews”.

Israel’s founders were actually very prejudiced against Jews that survived the holocaust. And much more against the ones that didn’t actually…

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 120 points 2 weeks ago

Just to be clear because everybody seems to be missing this point.

Palestinian Action, is an organisation. Membership of that group is banned, it is not illegal to support Palestinians or to call out Israel's genocide. The government doesn't like it when you do, but it's not actually illegal for you to do it.

This organisation broke into a UK air force base in order to protest. They are not being charged because they protested, they're being charged for breaking in and damaging a lot of military equipment. I think it's a bit far to call them terrorists, but you can sort of see the government's point, if you squint.

The UK government does however absolutely deserve to get it in the neck for their support of Israel. Labour have had a pretty awkward relationship with Israel in particular and anti-Semitism in general for a long time, and they're now keen to be seen as supporters, but there are limits.

[-] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for this clarification. This is an extremely important context. "Palestine Action" is the particular name of a very specific organization, so the title of the article is obviously a bit misleading.

Still very worrying and more than a bit concerning, though. Here's to hoping for a future strengthening of UK speech laws. Though, frankly, I'm not so sure about US speech laws anymore. Cheers.

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[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 100 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like the UK is going down the American road here. It's time for all those UK citizens that said, "Rise up now!" to Americans months ago....time to rise up! Give us a great example!

Oh, you can't because you have to work for a living? How about that....

[-] mriswith@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago

There is also legislation that can be used to arrest most protestors. And you can face a multi-year prison sentence if you say something wrong on social media.

The UK is actually further along the dystopian path than the USA in some ways, but as is tradition they are trying to pretend it's not happening.

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[-] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

UK has always had that 1984/Brazil (the movie, not the not-movie) vibe; it wasn’t all just pulled out of Orwell’s magic butt.

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[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 88 points 2 weeks ago

They are doing this because Palestine Action has been incredibly effective. They have already forced the closure of two factories in England that produce arms for Israeli defense company Elbit and forced Barclays Bank to divest through sustained sabotage campaigns. No person has been hurt by their actions, yet these actions have cost the genocide supporters millions of pounds and caused months-long disruptions to the production of weapons used in ethnic clean songs around the globe (Elbit weapons are fueling not just the Palestine ethnic cleaning, but Kashmir and DRC, too).

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 37 points 2 weeks ago

Wow protestors these days will stoop to the level of wisely putting pressure on major companies supporting genocide?!?

First property damage and now this??

clutches plastic pearls

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[-] FundMECFSResearch 77 points 2 weeks ago

I support Palestine action

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Righto chap, hop in the prison lorry then!

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago

I hate evil.

[-] splonglo@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not only is the ruling wrong - it is the very thing it claims to be opposing. It is itself an act of terrorism, carried out with the intention of inspiring fear in the British public to further a political agenda.

In every way, the British government is replicating the actions it accuses PA of - except that the scale of harm to British society and the terror inspired is magnitudes greater, and performed in service of the opposite political goal.

This is a terror attack by the government against the British people.

The British people's opinion and will are the thing from which the goverment gains it's only source of legitimacy - and they do not line up with the government on this issue.

But evidently the government believes in a different model of legitimacy: they believe that legitimacy is derived from the mere fact that they hold power. In the mind of the government and it's supporters, the difference between a terrorist organisation and a legitimate government is just power and only power. To them, right and wrong has absolutely nothing to do with it. They think that they are winning, and that they are going to get away with it. Nothing else matters.

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[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

I support Palestinian action in the UK

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

We're also losing our freedom of speech in America, so we Americans can sympathize a bit.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago

You've actually lost your citizenship for that Thoughtcrime. Have fun in El Salvador. -people who will only stop when met with violent force

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

I'm more shocked it hasn't already happened to Extinction Rebellion, Insulate Britain or Just Stop Oil.

But I guess blockading motorways and rocking up to art museums dressed like extras from a Wham music video and defacing paintings makes you less of a threat than wanting Netanyahu to stop his genocide of the Palestinian people.

[-] laserm@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Still, calling blocking motorways and defacing painting terrorism is a stretch.

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[-] tane@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 weeks ago

Every British politician belongs in a mass grave. Just a total stain on humanity

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 weeks ago

Labour are class traitors.

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[-] csverdad@midwest.social 34 points 2 weeks ago

The most widely celebrated circumstance in the world is being rid of the British government. It’s spawned many holidays.

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[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 34 points 2 weeks ago

That's good reason to remind people, that law is written by particular people, mostly to protect those people interests.

[-] LadyButterfly@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

It's important to remember that the headline refers to the group Palestine action, which has carried out vandalisation of historical pieces, occupations of property, destruction etc (see here). So it's a group that fits the UK definition of an extremist group.

Some political groups (or even branches of them) can be political cults trapping members with coercive control It's not always idealistic well meaning people. The court that decreed them an unlawful group will have seen a lot of info we didn't.

I think we need to look deeper than the headline

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[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 31 points 2 weeks ago

Is it Illegal to say

"It is illegal to say...

I support Palestine Action."

?

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Flashback to...

Did you know that it's illegal to say "I want to kill the president of the United States of America"?

(couldn't get piped to load search results :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmiKenqLVAU )

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

checks post, 9h

sets VPN to UK

I support Palestine Action

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago

There are few things I like about being an American, but one of them is the first amendment. It doesn't always work, and Trump is sure to try some shit like this soon, but at least I know for now I won't go to prison for saying that I do indeed support Palestine Action

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 2 weeks ago

You could absolutely go to prison for it. A group of people in an unmarked van can grab you, send you to a prison in your country or even somewhere else, where you will be tortured possibly to death, and even if there will be an international fuss about it, nobody will ever do anything about it.
There is no more laws in your country, none.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

As long they can send people to torture prisons without due process or evidence, we do NOT have a First Amendment.

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

Feeding, housing and guarding someone for 14 years has got to be ridiculously expensive. All for uttering a few words.

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A new activist group has popped up and called itself Yvette Cooper. Amazing stuff

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[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!

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[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Death Death to the IDF!

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 24 points 2 weeks ago

Time to make a new group and to spite them call it "palestine 2 action"

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[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalism is genocidal. End capitalism!

[-] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago

Look at the United Kingdom giving the United States a run for their money.

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[-] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 21 points 2 weeks ago

You cheer for censorship when it aligns with your beliefs. Yet call the slippery slope a "fallacy."

See what happens?

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[-] als 21 points 2 weeks ago

The Met statement (https://news.met.police.uk/news/update-on-policing-in-london-following-proscription-of-palestine-action-499157) includes a 'report your neighbour' statement; "If you see material supporting terrorism online report it – visit www.gov.uk/ACT

You can also report suspicious activity by contacting the police in confidence on 0800 789 321."

Use this information wisely.

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