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[-] PanaX@lemmy.world 270 points 3 weeks ago

Based on that logic, ammunition and arms manufacturers should be held liable for damages as well.

[-] compostgoblin 161 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, but that would mean that logic has any bearing on what the Supreme Court decides to do

[-] huquad@lemmy.ml 50 points 3 weeks ago

I hate that you're absolutely correct

[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 weeks ago

The US has a law to limit the liability of gun manufacturers.

The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a U.S law, passed in 2005, that protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Both arms manufacturers and dealers can still be held liable for damages resulting from defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct, and other actions for which they are directly responsible. However, they may be held liable for negligent entrustment if it is found that they had reason to believe a firearm was intended for use in a crime.

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[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago

More like, if you steal something you are banned from using roads and sidewalks and doors.

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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 216 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 144 points 3 weeks ago

This would be the case had net neutrality not been killed off nearly a decade ago

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[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 137 points 3 weeks ago

Not even piracy. Accusations thereof.

[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 91 points 3 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure this supreme court would rule that people don't have a right to electricity, or even water. They'll probably be totally ok with people losing internet access as punishment for crossing media owners.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

or even water

Already did.

We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.

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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 62 points 3 weeks ago

Pragmatically, yes. Legally, no. Progressives have been fighting for years to get internet classified as a utility in the US, and regressives and (ironically) internet companies have been fighting against that effort at every turn in the name of profit.

And now look how well that's turned out. Gee, if only some people had warned them that deregulation was a monkey's paw...

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 38 points 3 weeks ago

They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 weeks ago

USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.

Let that sink in.

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[-] SillyDude@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 weeks ago

Inb4 palantir cuts off your electric and water because you had 15% eye distraction during the mandatory 3hr nightly fox news viewing.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

accused piracy, too. Not proven. Not convicted. Just “pirate go bye bye.”

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[-] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 152 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If it's upheld, that's the precursor to full-blown info blackouts, just cut off internet to anyone 'accused' of wrongspeak against the powers that be, which is basically everyone.

This also sounds like SOPA reborn.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 109 points 3 weeks ago

Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago

Don't give them ideas. Next they'll cut the blood stream to your brain.

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[-] AGuyAcrossTheInternet@fedia.io 107 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not doing piracy, I am merely training my AI!

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago

The recent judgement did not, in fact, say that pirating was legal if you use the pirated material to train AI.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago

Call me when all these LLM get their internet cut off then.

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[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 80 points 3 weeks ago

I nominate we test with out with the Zuck and his networks.

[-] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 79 points 3 weeks ago

This still won’t make me pay for Netflix

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 76 points 3 weeks ago

So if Meta is convicted of pirating books for AI training, they lose all internet connectivity? 🧐

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 22 points 3 weeks ago

dint they just rule AI can legally scrape/books, but not for people who are pirating directly.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 18 points 3 weeks ago

The US is such a silly place. Everything is so wrong.

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[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago
[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Protip for anyone unfamiliar: Mullvad really is the gold standard for a private VPN. If you just want to pirate shit and not get angry letters from your ISP, Nord or PIA will accomplish that. But if you REALLY want privacy, Mullvad is it.

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[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 61 points 3 weeks ago

"the internet" is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can't be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.

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[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 60 points 3 weeks ago

This is how you get a new darknet.

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 55 points 3 weeks ago

And now I'm on a VPN because if they're just gonna cut people off for accusing of piracy they're gonna have to cut off everyone with a VPN.

TBH I should have been behind a VPN before

[-] Tower@lemmy.zip 26 points 3 weeks ago

Mullvad is the best $5 and change I spend each month.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago

I love Mullvad and used them for years, but without port forwarding, they're not the service you want for torrenting. Some alternatives like AirVPN or ProtonVPN are better suited for that stuff.

Before the haters jump in and tell me "it works fine fer me!" it's only working because the user on the other end, like myself, have port forwarding set up. Since you don't have it, you'll never connect to anyone else like yourself nor will they be able to connect to you.

Of course there are alternatives like streaming and Usenet but there are tradeoffs no matter what you pick.

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 48 points 3 weeks ago

The mere accusation causing someone to lose the Internet, which is vital to modern life, would be insane.

Additionally, it would do little to nothing to stop piracy.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 weeks ago

they actually do think that if you stop piracy people will flock back to streaming services when in reality all that will happen is i'll just watch more twitch.

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[-] HertzDentalBar 48 points 3 weeks ago

Pirate everything, death to the capitalists.

[-] peteyestee@feddit.org 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Get to the point that you don't want their products. Consuming their stuff at all is like sporting brand name cloths and covering the logo.

Once you do this you will find you don't need most of it and it's just a waste of time anyway. The stuff that is authentic and that you genuinely need you can support.

It's honestly like quitting drugs.

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[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 weeks ago

All public wifi will be disconnected pretty quickly.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 43 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not doing piracy, I'm just trading a lot of data packets with a Proton Server in Switzerland, nothing to see here 😉

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[-] obsidianfoxxy7870 36 points 3 weeks ago

The unproven claims is the key part here. Also the point of "terminating an account would punish every user in a household" is important as well.

You can fine someone for piracy if you want. As long as they have the standard legal protections. But cutting access is excessive.

[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 33 points 3 weeks ago

let's all fall on our sword to make sure Disney never loses a potential subscriber for Marvel Wars. Truly, we are defending the interests of the people here

[-] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

Then pirates will just get smarter. No way for them to see who is watching all of these movies with their VPN and Debrid service.

[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 weeks ago

(Donald trump voice) "We should hold all food companys liable for users violent crimes, this man stabbed another man to death with a spoon! 30 minutes before he ate kraft mac and cheese. It gave him the energy to violently stab this innocent man"

Lets hope they got common sense

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Lol.

Do ISPs like making money?

Then they shouldn't disconnect users who pirate.

I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don't do anything though because they like the money I give them.

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[-] Sickday@kbin.earth 25 points 3 weeks ago

What will they do when entire College campuses lose internet access because half their students are pirating text books

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[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 21 points 3 weeks ago

4G piracy hub go brrrrr? Go ahead, disconnect me. I will get another SIM and resume piracy.

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[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they're toothless and can't actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone's happy.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 weeks ago

ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.

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