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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 128 points 1 month ago

capitalism wouldn't be so bad without the corrupt bloated shitheel scumbag fucking christofascligarchs

[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 153 points 1 month ago

Capitalism grantees they rise to power.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

systematic removal of regulations and consequences has enabled greedy corporate dickbacks to sieze power.

systems are made of people. To make a better system, you need better people.

[-] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 62 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're wrong. Capitalism is, by definition, a "winner takes it all" system. The logical endpoint of competition between private entities is the consolidation of one of those entities, and once economy of scale plays a role, reversing that is almost impossible. And once a private entity has significantly more economic power than the others, it can manipulate regulations and consequences. Capitalism explicitly rewards by design being greedy

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

Yes, and that's capitalism. The regulations are antithetical to capitalism, but they're also the only thing keeping us slightly safe from it. Yes, making capitalism less capitalist makes it a lot better. We can have a better system that's just better, with the people that exist.

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[-] the_wise_wolf@feddit.org 21 points 1 month ago

They always do, regardless of the economic system.

[-] sudo@programming.dev 23 points 1 month ago

I would not describe any communist or socialist leader as a Christian Fascist Oligarch.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it sure does with small government.

remember there are countries that enjoy capitalism without the 5 ring circus shitshow we have going on in the states

[-] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago

So far, but corruption is always the end result.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 month ago

corruption is always the end result.

i'm not trying to simp for capitalism, but corruption can and does happen under any system

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 month ago

Give Europe a bit more time. They'll get there.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

Those countries are headed towards that circus at varying paces, so that argument doesn't work anymore. I mean Germany? France? Sweden? Britain? Italy?

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

Capitalism ultimately rots into authoritarianism through wealth accumulation.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 49 points 1 month ago

Capitalism is always bad, because capitalism is where an ownership class who does no work leeches from a working class who owns nothing.

Don’t confuse free markets with capitalism, they’re different.

[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Genuine question. How do you have free markets without the existence of capital and the pursuit of its accumulation?

The definition of capitalism per the dictionary is:

an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.

How do you have free trade without people who own things trading them?

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

Capital has existed far longer than capitalism has.

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[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago

That’s what capitalism is.

Anarchists still believe in trade.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Corruption is an inherent part of capitalism

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Capitalism is the accumulation and hoarding of wealth at all costs. Exploitation and abuse are foundational concepts. There is no ethical or moral version of such a system, and so no version of it that “wouldn’t be so bad.” It is immorality and evil distilled into a code of conduct.

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's a reason capitalism is essentially counter to the teachings of all major world religions, many of which are extremely authoritarian in their own way.

One aspect of modern capitalism is predatory loans, which every Abrahamic religion has writings against.

It's pretty telling most religions would not go as far as "poor people can go fuck themselves" despite being used to control people through fear over millenia but the end game of unchecked capitalism is truly as simple as "poor people can go fuck themselves"

[-] sudo@programming.dev 26 points 1 month ago

corrupt bloated shitheel scumbag fucking christofascligarchs

AKA the inventors and vanguard of capitalism.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Capitalism only works when heavily regulated, because human greed is a cancer to everything it touches.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

That regulation is antithetical to capitalism. Yes, it's the only thing that keeps it functioning in a reasonable manner, but that's just an indication capitalism is bad.

Yes, less capitalist capitalism is better than more capitalist capitalism. Maybe we should just have none.

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[-] witchybitchy@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

capitalism is amazing as long as it not allowed to run rampant. stricter regulations and safety nets (usa) would make the whole risk/reward game of capitalism more palatable imo

[-] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

Salt and pepper make dog shit more palatable too. Instead of seeking to make bad things palatable, can we try something different instead?

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[-] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 11 points 1 month ago

Please tell me, when exactly has capitalism been amazing?

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[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

That's saying a grilled cheese wouldn't be so bad if it didn't have cheese. At that point it ain't a grilled cheese anymore so why even try to defend it in the first place? Just eat some god damn bread

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[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This guy fucks...

The Bourgeoisie

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

And also his wife and apparently that also became news somehow

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago
[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Anything is news when the guy is a Muslim socialist. Duh

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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

You can practically hear the phonk.

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[-] Surenho@lemmy.wtf 28 points 1 month ago

I keep reading one or another form of "regulated capitalism is the goal" or "in small countries work" or "the problem is people". Regulated capitalism sounds great, but it is like saying "sanitised street pond". You can try and sanitise it all you want but in the end it is by its very design gonna be an undrinkable mess.

There is no great moment of the US. Even when you had wealth, it was on the backs of the rest of america, both the country's second class citizens, and the rest of the continent. You're obsessed with empires, meddling in other countries' governments, controlling resources in other countries, glorified violence, dominance, and individualist hero idealism. Even compared to other powers like China, count how many military bases you have vs the rest of the world. You've been historically bullies, obsessed with hustle, profit over life, status and personal achievement. Every time you have an increase of wealth is at the cost of someone else. The problem is you have lived so long in this bubble of entitlement that you have no idea how it impacts everything around you. Somewhere there's a totalitarian regime where they'll murder people with guillotines, and people will rush to buy stocks in companies selling sharp blades. There is no ethic in capitalism, capitalism does not care about people.

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[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Capitalism requires consistent growth and most non-economists think it should be left unregulated. However I distinctly recall one person recently who pushed to add government controls and even said they didn’t care about the stock markets and what companies felt was best, and instead were doing what they felt best benefitted Americans.

So why is no one asking Trump the same question when he’s clearly going against (American) capitalism?

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

We need a word that describes "questions that cannot be answered with a simple yes/no asked with the explicit intent to make a sound bite for stupid people." Germans do this kind of thing all the time. Some compound word like "stupid dummy-faced shitheel question." Studu-fashtion.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 20 points 1 month ago

It's called a loaded question, but that doesn't really have the weight of how destructive this has been to society

I'm enjoying how easy it is to use ratfuck to describe using proceduralism to try to manipulate democracy, maybe something along those lines?

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[-] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

It's called a false dichotomy, actually. Basically pretending there are only two sides to an argument (capitalism good, capitalism bad) when there is more nuance. Capitalism good, but... capitalism bad, but... this isn't capitalism... etc.

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[-] kittenzrulz123 18 points 1 month ago

DOWN WITH THE CAPITALIST CANCER

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