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Capitalism grantees they rise to power.
systematic removal of regulations and consequences has enabled greedy corporate dickbacks to sieze power.
systems are made of people. To make a better system, you need better people.
You're wrong. Capitalism is, by definition, a "winner takes it all" system. The logical endpoint of competition between private entities is the consolidation of one of those entities, and once economy of scale plays a role, reversing that is almost impossible. And once a private entity has significantly more economic power than the others, it can manipulate regulations and consequences. Capitalism explicitly rewards by design being greedy
You're talking about unregulated capitalism...
Give me a historical example of properly functioning, regulated capitalism
You can't, because they're all operated and used by humans. While there may be a logical framework and rules to make a system like capitalism work, it's the fact that not all humans will respect or follow the rules. Eventually any fairness or equality the rules are supposed to ensure will be worked around by humans that choose not to play fair. Watching the response Mamdami received from the Dems is a perfect example of why our system is broken. He's got the popular vote of the party, yet they are doing everything in their power to stop him. That's merely a single recent example though, shit has been broken since the get-go
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Well, the other animals have stable systems of rules that have worked fine for millenia. We just gotta find a new social order that scales better than tribes.
Yes, and that's capitalism. The regulations are antithetical to capitalism, but they're also the only thing keeping us slightly safe from it. Yes, making capitalism less capitalist makes it a lot better. We can have a better system that's just better, with the people that exist.
I think a lot of people misunderstand capitalism in the same way other people misunderstand communism.
What you said is absolutely wrong, regulations are not antiethical in capitalism, they are necessary for the free market to remain free.
The system we see today is a corruption of capitalism the same way Stalinism is a corruption of Communism
A regulated market is by definition not a free market.
Wrong, a market can only be free if it's regulated, example: I have a competing factory up river from you and we both need clean water to operate, I output toxic chemicals into the water as a result of my operations making your business impossible.
You have to close your business and I get to set the price however I want without competition, in this example the lack of regulations create a less free market.
Here's the definition
From the link you posted
The Supreme Court specifically, they gave US citizens united, and then unlimited executive power. Now we’re fucked being most hope.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
They always do, regardless of the economic system.
I would not describe any communist or socialist leader as a Christian Fascist Oligarch.
it sure does with small government.
remember there are countries that enjoy capitalism without the 5 ring circus shitshow we have going on in the states
So far, but corruption is always the end result.
i'm not trying to simp for capitalism, but corruption can and does happen under any system
Give Europe a bit more time. They'll get there.
Those countries are headed towards that circus at varying paces, so that argument doesn't work anymore. I mean Germany? France? Sweden? Britain? Italy?
The problem with capitalism in a representative democracy is that is almost impossible to maintain a perfectly sized government. If the government asks for too many taxes (on an extreme level) etc the market doesn’t function anymore. The “free market” needs some level of class difference to make profit attractive and keep people committed to their jobs. Because of these differences class conflict is created and through privately owned newspapers, corruption and short term economic gains regulation’s get liberalized. This results in wealth accumulation, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. This then leads to the social and economic conditions that allow for the rise of the populist right.
As a European I can currently see this happening in all countries to which I pay attention (namely Germany, Netherlands and Britain).
yep. while that's true, i can't think of a valid argument against some regulating body that protects all the people, which, in america, has been somehow defined as communism by the corrupt upper crust
if there is hope, it lies in the proles