Media: "Everyone, this guy doesn't grovel for Israel!"
Everyone: "okay that sounds good."
Not sure if this was a smear campaign as much as the lobby getting high on it's own supply.
It would be nice if the media made it easy for us and just kept reminding who is funded by AIAPAC.
Failed? It's been less than a week. They're threatening to denaturalize and deport him. Sounds like they're very frightened.
Remember when trump invited the taliban to camp david...
Bruh, no, I didn't remember until you posted this. Holy shit. It's been a longass 10 years.
Am Jewish, am native New Yorker, no longer live there, would vote Mamdani. Fuck Israel.
it's not and it hasn't... keep fighting until he is mayor and starts enacting what he is promising
But Cuomo tried very hard to turn it into a referendum on Mamdani’s views on Israel and Palestine—and the media establishment took the bait.
It's weird this is an issue in a mayoral campaign in the USA. The role has no foreign policy authority whatsoever, and Palestine/Israel is 5700 miles from NYC.
He’s about to raise taxes on ~350k millionaires, while increasing wages and lowering the cost of groceries and rent. It’s everything Trump promised in his campaign, but he’s doing it the exact opposite way.
When it works, Trump is gonna look like a dick, and the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.
the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.
What's that old saying like "none are so blind as those who will not see"? I feel like people are so emotionally invested in "socialism bad, democrats bad" that it's going to be hard for them to accept contradicting that.
Yes. We are talking about dumbasses that like the ACA, but hate "Obamacare" - which apparently has "death panels"....
That's definitely true for many Republicans, but I think a successful term as mayor for Zohran has potential to really change things for the Democrats. If, after hearing from establishment Democrats for decades that the only way we can change things is so incrementally, not only can we not make progress, but we actually have to accept going backwards pretty often, you have a mayor who delivers some fairly sweeping changes, it could open the eyes of many Democrat voters to the lies that they've been fed by party leadership to excuse themselves for sitting on their hands while things fall apart around them.
It won’t work because, like every socialist system everywhere, capitalists will seek to undermine and interfere.
Trump is already deeply unpopular in NYC, so it’s not likely to change anything on the national stage. New Yorkers have been seeing Trump’s BS on parade for decades now. It won’t change New York’s opinion of Trump.
Nationally, it might. But that’s only if the media actually runs with it; The big news orgs are all in bed with the established politicians, so they’ll likely be smearing him left and right to avoid having it turn into a national shift.
Plus, Israel is super unpopular right now. Mainstream media and establishment politicians don't get this. The more they criticize Mamdani for his lack of allegiance to Israel, the more people will vote for him!
MSM used to know that they needed to smear anti-Israel candidates on other subjects. They got high on their own supply. Probably because they fired all the non zealots.
I think they are used to the old world in which being able to intentionally conflate being anti-Israel with "antisemitic" and have that bullshit being swallowed by most people.
The days of them being gatekeepers on that in particular are long, long gone. It is and always was complete horseshit to label anyone critical of Israel running an open-air prison "antisemitic", but for most of my lifetime, that was just de rigueur. If anyone were to question it, you'd have most of the left and the right coming down on them.
I think the more that MSM continues to try to cling that, the more they will lose credibility on lots of other things. At least some of them now seem to recognize that most of us think their "both sides" framing is complete horseshit and it's become nearly a punchline, finally, after all these years. They will probably cling to that even harder than the Israel gatekeeping they do. Related, I think they'll really resist calling the lying liars on the right out on their lies and invective the most.
As an example, I constantly see most of them not even blink when a prominent Republican sits there and talks about the "Democrat Party". Anyone in media must know this is an intentional and constant slur and yet, they don't call them out on it. I'd like to see them sitting there and not correcting the Republicans and asking why they INSIST on this constant insult taken as nearly the same punchline as "both sides" framing is right now and start to change their behavior. They have been letting the Republicans do this for decades and they know full well what is going on, and do nothing. I'm so sick of that. It's no small thing, it's a corollary to the "both sides" framing that is so harmful to our nation - letting Republicans sit there and insult most of the country as well as lie brazenly and not get called out on it as to what they are doing....
Yeah the most bizarre thing to me was seeing the debate and hearing a question about foreign nation visits
Like wtf is a city mayor doing visiting other countries and why would we care
That was super weird. It was trying to bait out mamdani and other progressive views about Israel but man what a word question for a mayoral race
There's a huge Jewish population in NYC, and many mistakenly assume that all of them support what Israel is doing. To a lot of people Judaism=Zionism.
Even if that assumption were correct, the mayor of NYC cannot meaningfully aid or hinder Israel's actions. A politician's position on an issue far outside the scope of the office they're seeking doesn't usually influence my vote.
The oligarchs can't win on the merits of their policies, so they desperately resort to identity politics to try to divide us.
That's a weird assumption. Many Jews strongly oppose it, including Bernie Sanders, Jon Stewart, Ben and Jerry from the ice cream, and probably millions of less famous Jews.
NYPD has a field office in Kfar Saba. So, possibly more pertinent than it should be.
The smear campaign against Zohran Mamdani isn't over, and won't be over for as long as he's in politics, and then a little after.
Definitely not over. Assuming he wins the election, I would anticipate a lot of sabotage stemming from establishment politicians and public servants. If they can't win this election, they'll want to make his term as mayor as discordant and ineffectual as possible, to make it easier for a more conservative/establishment candidate to win the next one.
Which is why I think everyone celebrating his victory are being naively premature
Progress is still something to celebrate. Without the first step, the others cant follow
They’ll attack him in the history books. The banks put Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill.
Oh, they're still trying.
But they just keep making him more cool.
A.) If this is a right-wing smear, it's their typical laziness. Can't be bothered to implement https? Even if it's a redirect it's sloppy.
B.) Look at this registrar info from their who is:
Nevermind about the whois...the info is all from the privacy provider the registrar uses.
Damn website won't load
Prolly a good sign!
It just goes to his campaign page. But yes, a good sign.
Seriously. It's not "failed"; it's in full fuckin' swing.
There's no smear they could've done that's worse than what Cuomo had going on.
Doesn't he still have to win the general? So we'll see if it failed or not.
In New York, the Dem primary is MUCH more competitive than the general against (perennial loser and hyper-racist vigilante) Curtis Sliwa and whichever dross failed to achieve the backing of one of the parties but are still rich and/or corrupt enough to afford running anyway.
Other than Sliwa, his opponents will be a corrupt as fuck compulsive liar who was probably days from being sentenced to prison when he decided to pledge his allegiance to the Mango Mussolini without joining the GOP, and possibly the sex offender he just beat.
Are we expecting the Democratic party to actually support him? Seems the national leadership would rather see someone else in his spot.
If he fail because the party do not supporting then those people who keep talking about the lesser of two evil parties are hypocrites and you can say goodbye to the usa improving
I for one am DEFINITELY not, no.
Will be interesting to see what they do tbh, since Cuomo has already lost to him once and the other two candidates are openly sucking up to the Mango Mussolini. Makes endorsing anyone quite the tricky proposition..
OK, so next it’ll be the an entrapment operation? And then maybe an assassination?
I mean, if history is our guide…
On the one hand I'm surprised, but on the other I'm not since most political consultants are fucking out of touch idiots, but I think they were lazy and went for the more recent "hate Palestine or you're an antisemite" bit and found it didn't work.
Next I'm worried they're going to use the much more effective "defund the police makes you unsafe" bit and lean heavier into the "communist" game, if he doesn't get deported first of course... I'm very happy he won the primary, but I have very little faith he's going to win the general election unfortunately :/
Have a little faith, he's the heavy favorite. The city's unions and politicians are in the process of rallying around him, while his opponents are all jokes who likely won't get as many votes combined as Zohran.
lean heavier into the “communist” game
I do sometimes wonder how effective this is. Before the rise of openly fascist influencers and things like 4chan, I would have laughed and told the Angry White Men trying this something like "the 1950s called and want their Red Scare back".
But these red-pillers have done a lot to conflate POC, non-xtians, feminists, LGBTQ, and liberals with "communists" and advocate for the likes of fascists like Pinochet (who "did nothing wrong") and giving "communists" "free helicopter rides" and I do wonder. Especially when it comes to that cyclical theory of the rise of authoritarian terror.
The young people falling into the brosphere/redpill thing probably have zero historical context and are just going to generally be utterly clueless about the dangers of what they are falling in with...they might think they'll get to be ones conducting violence on others in the name of "fighting communism", but they probably don't realize that these things tend to get very ugly, even for the people perpetrating the violence, even if they are complete psychopaths that only care about themselves. Eventually, there are not enough "outsiders", and you have to invent more...and even the "good" psychopaths might find themselves on the other end of that gun...
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