It could be 101: the first a surprise, the next 100 to establish a meaningful statistical correlation.
can you be my lawyer please
"Surely that was a fluke, it won't work for a second time!"
"Twice in a row? What are the chances. I wonder if it works with pencil instead of pen."
...
Apple pen !
Penpineappleapplepen!
Invariably I'd have drawn a comedy penis in there somewhere, and some poor lad somewhere would likely find his plonker refusing to work one night, or died with his old chap at full mast for maximum embarrassment.
Or you accidentally murder some guy with the misfortune to be named "Dick".
You have to be able to visualize the face of the person when you write their name. In the rules.
"What a cool notebook! I'm going to make this my new personal phone book and spend all afternoon putting all my contacts in it."
It starts off innocently but before long, you are eating snacks
One too many potato chips is all it takes.
I recently saw a sticker that said, "If at first you don't succeed, try a few more times to establish a baseline."
Iirc, you can write how the person behaves before death on the death note. You can easily write your own life fanfic and peaceful death there to ensure you don't get Raito'd or L'd in the meantime
I think there was a pretty short limit on how far in the future you could write someone's death.
Also, if the circumstances described are impossible, it will default to a heart attack.
That's a very painful version of play stupid games, win stupid prices.
I think there was a pretty short limit on how far in the future you could write someone’s death.
23 days. You had 40 seconds to write a cause of death and 6:40 to write the details, and could even pre-write the details and add the name(s) afterward but the Death Note could not effect anything that occurred more than 23 days in the future, with the exception of dying by a disease that would take longer than that to progress and not writing a time (in which case they develop the disease but die when/how the disease would take them). The real problem is that you also can't use the Death Note to directly extend someone's life by writing that they die after they normally would - if you try they just die however they would have died if you hadn't used the note. You can however use the Death Note to kill someone who is a threat to another, indirectly saving their life.
Anything you make them do also has to be something they might plausibly do on their own, or it just hits them with a heart attack. You also can't make them kill someone else, though I think you might be able to fudge that by writing that person A will be shot by person B, and then that person B will shoot person A. I could be misremembering, but I think that trick was used at one point.
No but the longer the time is that you describe the mor reasonable the actions have to be for the person to be.
So you can make a police officer shoot some random people but you can't make him save a black child /s
So you can make a police officer shoot some random people but you can’t make him save a black child /s
Oh, now, you could make him accidentally save a black child. Or get blinded immediately beforehand so he doesn't know the child is black.
Heh. L'd. Funni. Because in the show there's a guy named --
the first thing I would do is write my name in it so no one steals it
Thank you! The first thing I do with every notebook is write my name on the first page (or inside cover)
If you think about it, ALL of my uses would be freebies
Doesn't a shinigami come and explain how it works? It's been a bit since I've seen death note so I don't remember if that happens before or after you use it. If it's before, there's no reason to assume it wouldn't work since a supernatural being appears to explain how it works which adds credibility.
In the anime, the shinigami only came after the first kill IIRC. Light only had the tutorial text in the notebook to go off of.
Remember, when someone unexpectedly kicks the bucket. That leads to a power vaccuum. Instead, you got to go after the middle managers. The people who carry out a politican's agenda. In theory, another faction would be able to capitalize on the situation. While taking out some politicans would be a net beneft, the fallout would be terrible. A civil war in nuclear armed Russia? Another Middle East war?
Now when it comes to billionaries and the other parasites. Take those fuckers out. The World doesn't have to worry about a corporate power vaccuum taking everyone down like a civil war in a country.
If you write "person xyz dies in a month" you have plenty of time to write down thousands of names before the first one dies, and in all this time you can always make the reasonable assumption that it won't work anyways.
Death note would be impossible in current year. Like, your test use would have to be on a huge name otherwise your phone analytics would super rat you out. I can just imaging light starting to get ads for burner phones and VPNs.
just don't Google them.
look
Ronald Reagan
It worked!
"This is the ~~LockPicking~~NotebookWritingLawyer... allow me to desmonstrate one more time to make sure that it is not a fluke"
"You shouldn't be trying to use a potentially supernatural notebook and accidentally cause the death of people. But if you ever find yourself accidentally become the owner of a death note, then you'll need a good lawyer, but if you need a great lawyer, contact my law firm. You don't just need a legal team, you need The Eagle Team!"
Ok but that sounds like exactly the kind of shit test God puts people through in religious parables.
Give them an unbelievable and entirely random thing that SAYS it's supernaturally evil (and it actually is, but it's also so out of left field--) and if they don't take the warning at face value and put it back down they will go to hell forever or something.
Death Note should get a new series and it should be entirely about every evil billionaire currently alive in 2025
at the end of the series light becomes one of the god of deaths.
My death note would be the same as fortune 500
I think I have to disagree on this one. Whether or not you believed it would work is irrelevant. The malicious intent is what matters here. You happened to find a supernaturally accursed notebook titled "Death Note" and you decide to write someone's name in it? That already crosses the moral line imo, independent of any actual effects.
Counterarguments welcome.
If I say, "Damn him!" about someone, and it turns out that Hell is real and that saying that actually causes people to be sent to Hell, am I morally culpable for that? Let's say I attempt to hex someone, knowing full well that it doesn't work, but just using it as a way to express my frustrations - but then it turns out hexes are real and I actually hexed them?
You can't read in a significant malicious intent if a person takes an action that they have every reason to believe is harmless.
I'd recommend reading some of The Illustrated Guide to Law which covers relevant concepts, albeit from a legal perspective rather than a moral one
:::spoiler spoiler
The intent is the important part, I think. When you say "damn him!" you (I imagine) aren't actually thinking of damning that person to hell, and seeing if it works.
It's more like pointing a gun you're pretty sure isn't loaded at someone's head and pulling the trigger. Even if you thought it wasn't loaded, you know exactly what you're doing if it happens to be.
No, that's completely different. Pointing an unloaded gun at someone is 1) a threat, because they might not know it's unloaded, 2) a violation of established rules and norms about firearm safety, which exist because 3) the gun may be loaded even if you believe it isn't, this is a fairly common cause of accidents.
What we're talking about with a Death Note is something so implausible that it could cause harm that no reasonable person would expect it to work. There's an enormous difference between "I thought the gun wasn't loaded but it was," and, "I thought magic wasn't real but it was.
I agree with someone in this thread who said you don't just get one freebie, but at least three. If I were on a jury and the prosecutor wanted to convince me that the defense knowingly killed people by writing names in a notebook, I imagine there is some finite number that would convince me, not only that it works, but that a reasonable person would expect it to work at the time they wrote the name - but that number might be like a dozen. It certainly wouldn't be one.
Is it malicious intent of you write your own name in it?
Step one to claiming ownership of a notebook, TBF.
I wonder if you could feed the paper into a printer and have some LLM without guardrails print out the names and likenesses of all the wealthy people on earth so they all die at once..
The rules don’t say you can’t do that, you just need to write the name and have the image of the person in mind, and this might just fulfill those requirements, if just looking at someone while writing would do it. It’s not like you are capable of a perfect representation in your mind anyway, so ai might be close enough..
I feel like that’s morally fairly clean since you didn’t do anything but fill a paper tray and write a prompt..
I’m immediately researching ask the major political figures of the world and most of the richest people too- I think I need 8-10 books, probably.
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