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[-] doctortofu@piefed.social 180 points 1 week ago

Trump just desperately wants to nuke something. Anything's fine, he just wants to drop a nuclear bomb on stuff. I mean, he was floating nuking a goddamned hurricane before.

He's like a toddler that sees a big red button and just HAS to push it, because it's just there and it's so big and red and it will make things go boom!

[-] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

He should start a youtube channel that tests dropping nukes on various things

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[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 110 points 1 week ago

If the United States drops a nuke, the world needs to unite against us.

[-] rhvg@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The world should do that now.

They kinda already are, looking at Gaza vote in UN.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 25 points 1 week ago

The West for the most part isn't. Relations between Europe and America have gotten more antagonistic, but for the most part the former is toeing the latter's party line.

[-] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

The right has been talking about nuking the Middle East for decades. They now have “one of theirs” (a “common man” who believes in the things the common MAGA believes), who is just stupid enough to actually do it. I’m taking things day by day.

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[-] itslilith 87 points 1 week ago
[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago
[-] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 week ago

Especially, because the original article states „Trump is not considering using a tactical nuclear weapon on Fordow and the possibility was not presented by defense secretary Pete Hegseth and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff Gen Dan Caine in meetings in the White House situation room, two people familiar with the matter said.“ while the linked article here implies that this option is considered.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump is as dumb as a sack of hammers, and he’s looking for a nail. He just wants to treat nukes like playthings, a rich man’s flex. Just to say he did. Like a canned trophy hunt of a Lion from the safety of helicopters and trucks with everyone around him at his paid service. No risk, no personal jeopardy. Drop the bomb for lols just to experience the fact he did it and will brag about it.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 8 points 1 week ago

If he drops a nuke, he instantly becomes the most dangerous man in history, they only guy willing to use a nuke for normal war purposes (for which there are nearly infinite alternative options), and to flex his ego (which has no limit). Now when he threatens a country, they will have to believe him, because he's done it before.

With that in mind, I would think nearly every nation with a highly organized covert intelligence service would decide that it's time to remove that threat from the planet.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 week ago
[-] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump cheated to win the election. Most Americans are against him.

edit: I'm not just saying this, there's evidence to suggest it

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/kamala-harris-won-the-us-elections-bombshell-report-claims-voting-machines-were-tampered-with-before-2024/ar-AA1GnteW

However, yes, the country is shit right now. I agree.

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Most Americans might be against him, but the majority of those that voted voted for him. People's apathy and the DNC continually being useless helped Trump win.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Lol. No. Fsce rey reality of your country, otherwise you'll be unable to fix it.

[-] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Most Americans are against him.

I'll believe it when I see it. What I see is Trump and his ICE Brownshorts running all over the place with almost zero resistance.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

He has an almost 50% approval rating from Americans so while you’re technically correct, that’s still a ridiculous amount of Americans who like him

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That's not the statistic I've seen. It was in the 30s last I saw. Among Republicans it was still fairly high, like 60s, and higher among MAGA, but the general public was much lower. Can you cite a recent source for your number? Otherwise, I'll bolo for some updated numbers.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

These are the stats I found:

  • According to the most recent Gallup poll, Trump's job approval rating was 43% in May.
  • The Economist shows that 41% of people are favorable of Trump and 53% are unfavorable of him, according to the latest update from June 20.
  • Rasmussen Reports poll from June 20 showed 52% approval and 47% disapproval of Trump.
  • The Morning Consult tracker poll taken mid-June has dropped to 46% approval rating and 52% who disapprove.
  • Reuters/Ipsos poll reported that, as of June 16, 42% of those surveyed gave him a favorable approval rating of his performance in office.
  • An InsiderAdvantage poll taken between June 15-16 showed Trump with 54.4% approval over a 44.1% disapproval of his job performance.

From here

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[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

Most Americans are against him

Most Americans should have showed up to vote, then. Or not protest vote for a limp-dick 3rd party. As far as I'm concerned, most Americans are in support of what he's doing, because they didn't show otherwise on election day.

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[-] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

That oompa lumpa of ours just wants to drop a nuke. I vote we not and tell him we did. Also all of his press conferences and appearances henceforth will be accompanied by a 90's sitcom style laugh track.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

We could just show him videos of nuclear tests and he would probably fall for it. Fucking idiot.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Jokes and laugh tracks are how humans normalize things, if anything it needs to begin with ’attention bajoran workers’ and some eerie music.

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 29 points 1 week ago

Nuking them to prevent them getting nukes? Why do you think they want them in the first place? Now they will want them even harder. Should try to bribe their way into getting access to US nukes, just need a white supremacist asshole techbro to do the talking and they'll give you whatever you want.

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 8 points 1 week ago

Unleashing megagodzilla just to stop godzilla. So smart you couldnt believe it. Very rational and very cool

Over the series' history, the films have reflected the social and political climate in Japan. In the original film, Godzilla was an allegory for the effects of nuclear weapons, and the consequences that such weapons might have on Earth

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 week ago

It is so odd that this info being publicized...

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

They are trying to scare Iran into giving into what they want.

He thinks this is a genius plan.

It's stupid.

[-] Joeffect@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

He will chicken out and give the nukes to them... And call it the most brilliant thing anyone has ever done

they just want to test how much public outcry there would be

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Seems to me, like there is EXTREMELY, next to zero, or perhaps zero reason to ever HAVE to use a nuke. Nuke's should be a defensive deterrent, not a first choice. I'm sure the military has plenty of other options.

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[-] Geobloke@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago

Well, they did it. Now Iran will lash out and close the straits of Hormuz. It's the only threat that they can carry out now...

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 8 points 1 week ago

...and we'll sink the ships, and have dogfights over the sea, and it will escalate, and hello World War 3!

[-] Geobloke@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

I was hoping they could wait a few more years so I'd be too old to be drafted, but looks like I'll be twerking in Tehran

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[-] Hux@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

Indeed, on Tuesday Trump said, “I don’t care” that the U.S. intelligence community has assessed that Iran isn’t building a nuclear weapon, according to his own top intelligence official.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Pakistan saying they would nuke Israel if Israel nuked Iran probably was the only thing holding Israel back from pulling the trigger. If there was ever a group of people who should never be permitted to have nuclear weapons, its the Israelis.

[-] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Don't worry guys we're not going to war.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Well im not.

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[-] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I would have to think using nukes on a country that doesn't have nuclear power would be a slam dunk illegal order. Like, I mean, if he says to do it, the guys that make that happen, top to bottom, should say, "No, this is an illegal order, and i am not going to follow it."

If such an order is followed and nothing is forthcoming from some checking force in the federal government, I think i may have lost faith in humanity as a concept. This is the great filter. Can we be trusted as a species?

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Upfront: it should be obvious that no sane person wants us to drop a nuke or thinks there's any connotation of "okay" to any aspect of it.

Why do you think it would be an illegal order? There are very clear rules on what makes an order legal or not and, horribly, attacking a nation that poses no real threat isn't on the list. What nations we attack is a policy matter, and the rules are very clear that the military doesn't get a say in policy.
Explicitly targeting civilians for a strike on a city is where the line would be. Targeting something else in the city and deciding the civilians are acceptable collateral damage is right on the line. Legally, it's entirely unambiguously evil morally.

There are checks that keep the president from unilaterally launching a nuke. Unfortunately, the intent of those is to ensure the president is legally competent and actually the president, not to ensure he's wise or rational.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Hering

The system has been explicitly designed to minimize the risk of conscience preventing a launch. Issue training orders where the firing crews have no idea if it's real or not. Keep them on two week rotations where they don't have access to the outside world so they wouldn't know. Specifically select for people who will follow the order because it's validcand legal, without considering the greater context. People who are legitimately confused but ultimately unconcerned with protests against them specifically doing what they do, including clergy from their own religion. (Actual story of an ICBM operators reaction to nuns protesting and attempting to block access to the missile site he was stationed at)

There is no doubt in my mind that if the order were given and the VP and cabinet didn't remove him, that the order would be followed.

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[-] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Yeah no hipocrisy and double standards whatsoever /s

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I checked if this was the onion after reading the title

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 8 points 1 week ago

Western humanity at play

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Don't let Kegseth drunk drop it

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Dumbo with the big ears is pulling the strings of the empty-headed Scarecrow.

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