A Short Stay In Hell
Short novella based on this exact premise. If you have never encountered it before, I urge you to give it a read. It's excellent. Also very disturbing.
Short novella based on this exact premise. If you have never encountered it before, I urge you to give it a read. It's excellent. Also very disturbing.
Total obliteration seems more merciful than the eternal torment promised by Christianity.
You were expecting the storm god of the Sinai desert, maybe?
Honestly, given the available evidence, this is just as likely an outcome as any other.
this is the source of a lot of my existential dread. I can't logically refute it, at most I can acknowledge it's pointless for me to worry about, but I can't stop myself from worrying about maltheism.
Any supposed supreme deity who hinges the eternal fate of their own supposed creations on a wild ass guess isn't one that is worthy of worship, adoration, or even basic respect. If a being with the sum total knowledge and foresight of literally everything can't devise a better system that any random ass person off the street, I wouldn't worry about it.
They either don't exist at all, or they do and everyone is fucked because we exist in the playground of omnipotent super beings that are somehow also absurdly stupid. One of those outcomes is more likely than the other. I think you know which one it is.
That's one of the reasons I like 40k. "God is real and he hates us" is a central theme. Sure it's edgelord material but its also a fun thought experiment. For me. I can see why it would upset you though.
check out the demiurge if you've never read about it
Oh yeah I read a bunch of Gnostic texts in my younger days. Interesting stuff.
Well, he gave his best shot. Next time he might try a more rigorous vetting system rather than just picking the most popular one in his home town.
"I'm afraid it was the MORmons. Yes, the MORmons were the correct answer." --The Director of Hell (Southpark)
That's the first place my mind went, as well.
What's hilarious is that in another episode, Satan asked God to accept Saddam Hussein into heaven so he could know true eternal torment living with the Mormons.
Pretty much the reverse of this:
What's this from?
Oglaf (potentially NSFW).
"potentially" lol
"Frequently, but not always."
That link shows the latest comic, and they're not all NSFW.
Thank you I recognized the style but for the life of me could not remember the name.
Probably they would've killed him for being heretic and meet god again in a short time.
again? oy! this time I'll give you an invincibility cooldown.
Zororo hasn't stopped the souls coming in to obliterate.
Must be the highlight of it's day.
Nah, he just thinks the sins of the father pass to the son and he's a bit salty about why the tribe went extinct.
All Pharisees will face such.
The Christian god eats souls. The more chaste you are during life, the more energy he obtains. That's why he started the religion.
The light you see after death is like an angler fish, guiding you to your consumption.
I personally am a Christian, with a strong faith in Jesus, but I also believe that I'm not here to impose on the world. We as Christians are called AWAY from the world, so why interfere and bully others?
Christian crusaders and missionaries forced people to adopt Christianity and genocided populations, erasing entire cultures, but now that Christianity is in the majority it's easy to say Christianity has nothing to do with imposing itself on the world. It's already been imposed.
Evangelicals overtly continue the evil legacy of their missionary forebears, but all of Christianity bears that legacy.
That's true, but in fairness all of humanity bears that legacy. The crusaders weren't doing what they did just because of Christianity, it was because they were humans, doing what humans always do.
People in power have always used religion as a tool to further their own ends. It's true throughout history, it's still true today.
Did you maybe stop to think about my words and what I said? Maybe you can infer from my statements that I think all of that activity from ancient times to today was utterly disgusting? Maybe I'm conducting myself in the way Christians should have conducted themselves, rather than falling prey to the call of temporal power? Maybe you shouldn't judge a whole group of people as a monolith, and look at the individuals in front of you, and act accordingly? All I'm asking is to be treated as a human with dignity, like I will treat everyone in front of me.
You are absolutely a human being with dignity. I even have family who are Evangelicals and we get along well enough, though I dip whenever they try to bring up religion.
I was commenting on religion and its legacy. Of course you are not personally responsible for the Christianization of the world, or the cultural genocide of Indigenous people in residential schools.
I just think that the "I'm not like other Christians!" thing always rings a little hollow. You are a part of the religion that is the #1 weapon and driver of colonialist projects (including Canada!). The foundation is rotted.
So is every other philosophical and metaphysical concept nowadays, or so it seems. For example, what do you believe in as a person? Guaranteed it had and currently has bad faith practictioners of the faith or philosophy. Therefore it really does come down to individual actions. Or should I lump you in with those that follow your particular outlook?
The Christian god tells his followers to push the religion onto as many as possible and punish those who don't believe.
Source: history and current events.
If god wanted his followers to believe quietly, he'd have written his book differently. I have to assume, since he's perfect and all knowing, that the outcome was the goal. Otherwise he's a HUGE screw up.
Yes yes, free will. But god knows about free will, and still chose to write the book the way he did. So he intended the outcome that exists.
^1^ Take care not to practice your righteousness in the sight of people, to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.
^2^ So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, so that they will be praised by people. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. ^3^ But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, ^4^ so that your charitable giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.
^5^ And when you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. ^6^ But as for you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door, and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you
—Matthew 6:1–6
Very easy to cherry pick when you ignore the book of Joshua and Deuteronomy. Which include genocide, enslavement, ethnic cleansing and other atrocities, all committed by direct order of that deity.
Sure, that's what the book says. But that's not the actions the book produces. And an all knowing God would know the outcome of the words he chose.
Or there is no god and the cunts running this religious sharade benefit from adding as many sheep's under them as possible and are using religion as an excuse
Why's he being downloaded he's the sensible one, probably all the other shitty Christians down voting him lol
This is the thing, we're all supposed to share our life stories with one another, we're a social species, it's hardwired into us.
All of us should have some tact, and not bash each other over the skulls with our beliefs or our fists. Mr. Rogers is a model to aspire to as a person. He was a modern example of what a Christian should be. (He was a Presbyterian minister)
Personally, because I take offense at anyone who proudly worships the creature who killed tons of babies and kids, just for being the firstborn of a culture and not taking in the religion of another group just for being the correct one, imposing rules on a whim and turning those who failed into salt, testing faith by asking someone to kill their child, burning up cities because it disagreed with with how some of the people in it lived, and many other atrocities.
But more to the point, because I think it is disgusting to worship a creature so powerful and stubborn that after so much interference, now allegedly just says "I'm a hands off parent now, I don't care if you poke your eye out, commit Holocaust or poison and kill men, women and children by pretending to be acting in my name, I'll just judge you after you die, k, tks, bye"
You claim to be against the sins that form the basis of your religion, and I respect that, but one can't turn a blind eye to what the scriptures say.
With love, a former seminarian.
Nor do I, hence why I've chosen to live a quiet life, and avoid the Romanization of the belief system and instead follow Jesus. Might I ask where you stand in matters of a systematic worldview?
Al hail the great ZORORO
May they blast me into sweet oblivion of nothingness as soon as I die, existence isn't for me.
So who do non-believers like me meet?
In this scenario, some random ass folk deity. In all likelihood, nothing. Because there would no longer be a "you" and there was never "a thing to meet."
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